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Recession and Crime

Started by rufus
over 17 years ago
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Discussion about
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/nyregion/10crime.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin With this financial crisis, expect crime to increase drastically in NYC. The next few years for this city will be bleak.
Response by waverly
over 17 years ago
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Did you even read the article? It says that there is no emperical evidence that shows crime will increase. None. Zero. There is no expectation of an increase in crime in NYC. Not at all.

Thanks for posting an article that completely debunks your own ignorant statements.

Next topic....

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Response by malraux
over 17 years ago
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I have taken to wearing a Kevlar flack-jacket when strolling about Manhattan as a flaneur.

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Response by nyc10022
over 17 years ago
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There are going to be incredible cutbacks in social spending across the country. I don't see how that isn't going to result in an uptick in crime in every major city (and non-major cities like Chicago, too).

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Response by rufus
over 17 years ago
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difference though is that the criminal hotspots in Chicago are far away from the prime neighborhoods. in contrast, there are massive housing projects in Manhattan, so the criminal activity will spill over into nice areas.

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Response by malraux
over 17 years ago
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In that case, I better contact my Savile Row tailor immediately and custom order a pair of Kevlar underpants as well!

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Response by rufus
over 17 years ago
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malraux, that would be a great idea! after all, manhattan has projects in chelsea and upper west side.

if you really want to feel safe and live in a nice clean city, move to chicago's gold coast, river north, lincoln park, streeterville, lakeshore east.

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Response by nyc10022
over 17 years ago
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> if you really want to feel safe and live in a nice clean city, move to chicago's

I thought the goal was LESS crime, not more.

When crime is an issue, no one is going to be moving to cities with TWICE the crime rate. Especially when you don't get anything good with it, like good food or culture.

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Response by rufus
over 17 years ago
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nyc10022, you're an idiot. those neighborhoods i mentioned don't have projects. Manhattan does.

also, Chicago has some of the best restaurants in the country.

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Response by Sizzlack
over 17 years ago
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Because there is no crime in any of those hoods right Dufass...

Gold Coast: http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/locations/neighborhoods/gold-coast/
River North: http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/locations/neighborhoods/river-north/
Lincoln Park: http://chicago.everyblock.com/crime/locations/neighborhoods/lincoln-park/

And thats just in the last 7 days. But I have no doubt Rufus will close his eyes and ears and scream that that info is somehow biased. Its okay Rufus, we understand facts are tough to swallow.

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Response by Sizzlack
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Response by junkman_r_u_serious
over 17 years ago
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crime is more bearable on a full stomach after all.

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Response by Sizzlack
over 17 years ago
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Its funny that you use the projects and homeless people as the scapegoat for all crime. However you say there are no projects in Chicago...so who is doing all that theft, robbery and simple assaulting? Perhaps friends of yours?

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Response by bjw2103
over 17 years ago
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What are the odds rufus = petrfitz?

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Response by Sizzlack
over 17 years ago
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you know I had that same exact thought this morning bjw.

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Response by rufus
over 17 years ago
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Sizzlack, most violent crimes in cities are committed by poor minorities. i know this is not politically correct, but facts are facts.

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Response by Sizzlack
over 17 years ago
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ok, so what do you make of all those crime stats in "prime Chicago areas"? Just an unfortunate coincidence?

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Response by rufus
over 17 years ago
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first, most of those crime are non-violent. second, prime Chicago is still safer than prime NYC.

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Response by Sizzlack
over 17 years ago
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LOL. Yea three armed robberies at gunpoint and an aggravated assault in 7 days in "prime" Lincoln Park is worth ignoring. Move along, nothing to see here.

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Response by petrfitz
over 17 years ago
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what are the odds bjw = ignorant a hole who doesnt know what he is talking about?

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Response by alanhart
over 17 years ago
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catfight!!!!

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Response by waverly
over 17 years ago
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Yeah, murder is a non-violent crime.

You do understand that it is usually people who have stuff that get robbed, right? Typically, people who have nothing get robbed quite a bit less than people who have stuff.

Are the schools in Hammond really so bad that you can't figure any of this stuff out on your own?

One last thing, Chicago does have some fine restaurants, but NYC has about 10 times as many. Again, schools in Hammond must be really bad.

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Response by alanhart
over 17 years ago
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Oh, by the way rufie,

THE CHICAGO RIVER IS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!

(no shit, right now, look it up)

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Response by bjw2103
over 17 years ago
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petrfitz, no need to get so touchy/vulgar.

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Response by petrfitz
over 17 years ago
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bjw so you can attack me unprovoked but when I respond you have the nerve to correct me?

You started it. I defended myself. If you dont like people defending themselves against you stop attacking them unprovoked.

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Response by bjw2103
over 17 years ago
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Explain how postulating that you might be posting as rufus is an "attack"?

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Response by bjw2103
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Explain how postulating that you might be posting as rufus is an "attack"?

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Response by alanhart
over 17 years ago
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bjw2103 & petrfitz, as you can see from the title of this thread, it exists only to invite ad homoman attacks on rufie. Knock it off.

Or properly complete this sentence:
"If you have nothing nice to say about a person . . . "

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Response by alanhart
over 17 years ago
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bjw2103 & petrfitz, as you can see from the title of this thread, it exists only to invite ad homoman attacks on rufie. Knock it off.

Or properly complete this sentence:
"If you have nothing nice to say about a person . . . "

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Response by alanhart
over 17 years ago
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bjw2103 & petrfitz, as you can see from the title of this thread, it exists only to invite ad homoman attacks on rufie. Knock it off.

Or properly complete this sentence:
"If you have nothing nice to say about a person . . . "

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Response by petrfitz
over 17 years ago
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bjw - i think that you should stay out of RE and go back to health care. There are plenty of patients who just had their boils lanced and they need you to process their claim forms.

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Response by waverly
over 17 years ago
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Rufus - you do understand that just becasue you say something doesn't make it true, right? For example, you say crime is rampant in NYC, yet the facts show that crime is 2-3 times more rampant in Chicago. You keep repeating your false statement, but it doesn't change reality.

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Response by alanhart
over 17 years ago
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waverly, if you have nothing nice to say about rufie . . .

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Response by waverly
over 17 years ago
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Uhhh....he stopped saying in UWS, I appreciate that.

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Response by bjw2103
over 17 years ago
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petrfitz, that's the nicest thing you've said about me! Unfortunately, I have no idea how to process claims. But there are plenty of nice people who take care of that here.

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Response by alanhart
over 17 years ago
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Paraphrasing Alice Roosevelt, New Yorker, about 100 years ago, at tea or something:

waverly, if you have nothing nice to say about rufie, come sit here next to me.

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Response by switel
over 17 years ago
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I think the crime will go up and real estate down and I will buy an apt and rent it and move to another place :)

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Response by totallyanonymous
over 17 years ago
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"bjw2103 & petrfitz, as you can see from the title of this thread, it exists only to invite ad homoman attacks on rufie. Knock it off"

Please tell me your use of "ad homoman" was intended as a joke.

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