Chicago is now the most important city

Glad you voted Obama, Cracker Boy.

No. I voted McCain because Obama is a terrible alternative. I'm merely pointing out that Chicago has now eclipsed NYC. There is no doubt about that.

Good luck with your move.

thanks. i'm looking forward to moving to a great city. sadly, NYC is in a state of decline and will not recover.

Obama moved to Chicago because thats the place he could find the most people who needed help. He left NYC and went to Chicago because NYC didn't have enough gang violence, poverty, and blighted neighborhoods. He had to go to Chicago to find these things.

nyc10022, why are you so jealous of Chicago? just admit that it has surpassed NYC in every single way.

So when Bill Clinton was elected president did Little Rock, AR surpass both NYC and Chicago?

kspeak, little rock is not a national city. Chicago and NYC are, which is why you can compare those two.

bzzzzzz wrong

Yeah, NYC is so bad, but meanwhile Obama atteneded school in Mnahattan (Columbia) and Boston (Harvard Law). If Chicago si so wonderful, why didn't Obama attend school there?

Also, NYC has somethign called the Stock Exchange that makes it the most important city in the country.

alpine292, Obama is a product of Chicago. He chose to not establish himself in NYC or Boston. Chicago is the city that everyone associates him with.

The financial crisis has crippled NYC. What good is the stock exchange when wealth and talented people are leaving the city in droves?

Haven't noticed any of my friends or colleagues leaving in droves. I guess some of us just love this city. We will persevere and this too shall pass. Yes, it will be difficult and will take its toll on many at least for a while but in the end, you just can't keep a good NYer down.

I am glad you'll be happy in Chicago though. I hear it's a nice city and everyone deserves to be happy.

> nyc10022, why are you so jealous of Chicago?

You have confused jealousy with pity...

I feel for your impoverished, hick ass..

> kspeak, little rock is not a national city.

Neither is Chicago. As even you have alluded to, it is a fairly regional city.

rufus, did it hurt? Being forced to rip out all your dignity, and force-feed yourself this crap, in an effort to feel good about your forced relocation. At this point, Chicago vs. New York shouldn't be your primary concern - finding where you put your self respect (if you ever really had any) is far more important.

When Bush was elected, Crawford, Texas did not become the most important town in the U.S. Crawford is such a hell hole that after Bush leaves office, Laura does not want to move back to the ranch. Instead, she wants to move to the Preston Hollow section fo Dallas.

So NO, Chicago is no more improtant tody as it was yesterday. GET OVER IT.

alpine292, your logical reasoning skills are pretty pathetic. Crawford is a small town, not a major city like Chicago or NYC. The Olympic committee saw Obama's victory party last night on TV and were impressed with how clean and attractive the city is. It's a sharp contrast to the filth of NYC.

Atlanta hosted the Olympics, but that didn't make it the most important city either.

> not a major city like Chicago or NYC.

Actually, you just showed a complete logical failure. To prove that Chicago is in the league of NYC, you start with a premise assuming that it is.

Can't get much more pathetic in terms of reasoning skills than that...

Sarajevo hosted the olympics. Athens hosted the olympics.

You're talking about cities that are almost third-world...

Yeah, well, Chicago doesn't do "almost"

You are a complete idiot rufus. Aren't there any Chicago sites out there that you can troll around? If Chicago is so great, then you should have soemthing similar to Street Easy out there. And the hometown of a president is not important.

NYC can be compared to London or Paris. Chicago is not in the same league. BTW, Athens is not third world, in fact had been a dominant city like Rome or Istanbul for many many centuries in the history. NYC has been dominant for a century only so far. One thing for sure though, Chicago will not be the next one.

spark, what makes you so confident that Chicago will not be the next one? NYC is losing wealth and brains while Chicago's prestige is only increasing. For example, Chicago has built some of the most impressive highrise condos in the past decade, among any city in the U.S. Its downtown is cleaner and nicer than NYC's, and the upscale restaurant and nightlife scene is booming. Tribeca, soho, chelsea, and the village, are a joke compared to gold coast, river north, west loop, lincoln park.

Don't mind rufus, spark. He is trying to sell his POS on the south side of Chicago and is trolling for buyers here.

Why is Chicago important now? Because Obama is leaving it to go live in DC? I don't get the logic. Was Little Rock the most important city from 1992-2000? Did I miss something? Is this OP'er retarded?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...now putting rufus back on "ignore this person" mode.

Why are people even responding to the Chicago is better than NYC posts. If you ignore the OP's posts, they will stop. If a tree falls in the woods....

> while Chicago's prestige is only increasing

The sample for this prestige survey was rufus, his mom, and 4 fat chicks.

The term "prestige" and anywhere in the midwest cannot be used together without a hearty laugh afterward.

nyc10022, is that why Chicago is the favorite to win the 2016 olympics bid? also, if Chicaog is not prestigious, why is the country's tallest condo project going up there? and why have so many upscale restaurants opened up in chicago in the last few years?

> nyc10022, is that why Chicago is the favorite to win the 2016 olympics bid?

Is that why the sky is blue? You seem to be absolutely confused. The olympics are given to the city willing to grovel the most, which is usually the city that needs help the most. Sarajevo... Athens... Atlanta.... Beijing... Nice company. If you think thats the "prestige list"... well, I guess in the same way that fat chicks are the "hot women list"..

> also, if Chicaog is not prestigious, why is the country's tallest condo project going up there?

Lets see, some guy decides to build a building, and its because he's looking for the most prestigious city? Huh? Its because someone let him because Chicago needs SOMETHING to do. and land is cheap because demand is low. This would put you in the company of...uh, Kuala Lumpur. Nice job! You're now a 5th tier city!

> and why have so many upscale restaurants opened up in chicago in the last few years?

Again, dockers... not upscale, not "pretigious".

Keep trying though. You've moved from competing with Detroit to 3rd world cities!

Actually, Chicago is a logical choice for the Olympics. All the IOC cares about in the selection process is who will grease their palms, and nobody knows that game like the multigenerational Daley machine. So VERRRRY third-worldly is Chicago.

NYC badly wanted the olympics but they lost the bid because the city is too dirty, summer is disgusting, and overall infrastructure is shoddy. i mean, look at all the construction accidents and crane collapses that are happening in NYC.

it's pretty clear that you guys know nothing about the restaurant scene. more upscale restaurants have opened in chicago in the last few years than nyc.

Uh...Have you been on the subway in Chicago in the last, oh, say 25 years? Wanna talk about crumbling infrastructure?

"subway in Chicago"??? What subway? Only cities have subways.

Theirs is underground for five stations or so, then it's like a dumb-joke version of a classic roller coaster, a crumbling pile of sticks, a death-defying experience. But still not as scary as being on the streets of Chicago, of course.

I'm kinda glad about the collapse of the financial industry. I think it'll make NYC a more affordable hub for the artistic community. And the whole island was becoming one big gentrified homogenized mass of the same chain stores who can afford commercial space. A little grime is part of the charm.

sticky, while I share your perspective, it does not (for better or worse) work that way. It takes awhile for the patina to return after it's sand-blasted off . . . like maybe a generation.

> NYC badly wanted the olympics

Hmmm... the citizens overwhelmingly did not support it and fought it, and even the politicians declined to approve building the stadium that the Olympic Committee said needed to be there. Sounds a whole lot like the city didn't want them at all. But, wouldn't be a new day without another load of crap from Rufus.

Good thing for the Olympics that 3rd tier and 3rd world cities like Chicago did!

> it's pretty clear that you guys know nothing about the restaurant scene. more upscale restaurants
> have opened in chicago in the last few years than nyc.

No, no, no.... its pretty clear that you just aren't familiar with what "upscale" means. Sorry, dockers and fat chicks does not make for fine dining.

nyc10022, can you even name some of the upscale restaurants that have opened in NYC in the past 2 years?

sorry man. chicago has more.

Rufie, name some good places - as in places you'd frequent, not places like Per Se - that you'd go to for, in no particular oder:

1) French bistro style dining
2) Southern Italian "comfort" food
3) Rustic Northern Italian cooking
4) Dim Sum
5) Pizza (not deep dish)
6) Sushi
7) Greek
8) Good, fast-food style burgers
9) Good bar-style burgers
10) Cuban

> nyc10022, can you even name some of the upscale restaurants that have opened in NYC in the past 2
> years?

Sure, just check out all the "best of" lists. The ones Chicago isn't on....

> sorry man. chicago has more.

Yes, we already agreed that Chicago has more fat chicks.

An example of one of Chicago's upscale dining establishments torpedo-ing Chciago's chances for the olympics... sorry rufie..

http://www.insidethegames.com/show-news.php?id=3708

its dine... we'll just have the Pizzeria Uno Games.

Maybe the IOC can pick Chicago just for the riflery games:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1266785,two-teens-shot-englewood-110708.article

" 447 killed
MURDER RATE | When 15-year-old Brian Murdock and Quinton Buckner, 17, were gunned down in Englewood Thursday night, the city eclipsed the homicide total of 2007 with two months to go "

Here's the "What's On?" for Chicago:
http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/

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