Too many street vendors in NYC

Its pretty funny that even the food trucks are more upscale and have better food than the "finest" restaurants in Chicago. Maybe they should do an emergency bailout in Chicago and get the trucks over there. Then that would also help them maybe have a decent economy. Of course, it wouldn't help with the record crime rates...

yeah, i'm sure the NYC food trucks have better food than alinea, tru, moto, blackbird, etc.

why can't you admit that Chicago is more upscale than NYC?

rufus, stick to architecture, comparing the food is a joke.

So you hate street vendors but love street fairs? Isn't a street fair just a bunch of street vendors in one place?

kspeak, street fairs in Chicago only happen during the summer. they're fun and attract a lot of young people. street vendors in NYC are annoying, take up space, and make the city more grimy and less upscale.

> why can't you admit that Chicago is more upscale than NYC?

Because, unlike you, I have trouble with lying.

> So you hate street vendors but love street fairs? Isn't a street fair just a
> bunch of street vendors in one place?

I LOVE IT! ROTFL.

Rufus hates street vendors, but street fairs - which are made fun of here - are the best thing about Chicago.

Vendors apparently "take up space" and are "grimy".

But have them take over a city block in Chicago, and they're the greatest thing ever. Yeah, I guess places with nothing doing love state fairs and street fairs.

Rufus moves so easily between lying and hypocrisy. Not bad for a 10 year old.

But it makes sense - they are better they "only happen in the summer" and "attract lots of young people."

Is this where you pick up the ladies Rufie?

if you don't see the difference between hanging out with friends in a street fair while enjoying the nice Chicago summer and walking around dirty streets like canal, being bombarded by peddlers, then you're a moron.

Does Rufus actually believe his own circular logic?

'Chicago is better because its street fairs are in Chicago"

Man, when a town has to hang its hat on STREET FAIRS, wow, you know the town sucks. And, yes, we demoted Chicago to town status. When Rufus starts talking about state fairs, then its a village.

Rufus - you just don't get it. The reason I love NY is because of its gritty energy - the way one can enjoy "upscale" (I hate this word) and "downscale" entertainment at the same time. I find that combination vibrant - I have had nights where I've gone from the Beatrice Inn to Johnny's in one night (both blocks apart but one is exclusive and one is a quitessential dive bar). I love people line up for Shake Shack and Corner Bistro (although the latter has gone down hill) as much as they call weeks in advance to get a reservation at Babbo or Per Se. I love that I can come into work in the morning carrying my street vendor coffee (yes - this is my preference) and my New York Post and my Wall Street Journal and nobody thinks its wierd to read a tabloid and a business publication. I love that even when shopping with a fashion-plate friend of mine in SoHo the other weekend, she wanted to stop and get hot dogs for lunch and then selected two pairs of fun, dangly earrings from a street vendor. I love weekends where I can sit in the bleechers at Yankee Stadium on Friday and put on a gown and go to a fancy benefit the next night.

As usual, you just don't get it. I don't mind Chicago - my college roommate lives there and I visit often - but it doesn't have the energy of NY (even she admits this). Everything is spread out (maybe it is the alleys); the streets don't bustle; the people aren't as diverse ... it's not the same.

Here's the thing about NY and other real cities: although the destinations are great, it's really the journey that's phenomenal, stimulating, uplifting.

A corporate-events-managed fair (e.g. Taste of Chicago) is like a trip to a mall -- they're all owned and concepted by the same two or three companies (including General Growth, at least until they go under) and populated by the same 50 chain stores.

kspeak, Chicago has everything NYC offers, but is cleaner, cheaper, has better housing options, nicer people, and a more pleasant environment. This is why Chicago is becoming an extremely desirable option for people from all across the country.

Except for the poor black people. But thats okay. When you compare crime statistics between the two cities, you need to remember that in Chicago all the black folks don't live in the nice (white) part of Chicago. Even though Chicago has more murders and violent crime per capita than NYC, the statistics are skewed because of all the crime in the poor (black) neighborhoods!

NYbrlr, that's exactly right. Chicago has a higher crime rate than NYC, but if you live in a decent neighborhood, it doesn't affect you. In sharp contrast, manhattan still has massive housing projects, so wherever you go, you can never feel completely safe.

Why do you guys feed the troll? Its obvious rufus likes NYC more, and is trolling these forums as a sick form of therapy to get over the fact that he has no choice in the matter. Just ignore him.

> kspeak, Chicago has everything NYC offers

Wow, rufus isn't just stupid... he's pretty funny, too.

Everything except, uh, culture, wealth, top restaurants, fashion, educated people, ....

>>> "NYbrlr, that's exactly right. Chicago has a higher crime rate than NYC, but if you live in a decent neighborhood, it doesn't affect you. In sharp contrast, manhattan still has massive housing projects, so wherever you go, you can never feel completely safe."

Really classy, Rufus, really. I have no response.

lol

kspeak, link to the study which states that NYC has more "culture, wealth, and educated people," than Chicago?

oh wait. you're just making stuff up.

> kspeak, link to the study which states that NYC has more "culture, wealth, and educated people,"
> than Chicago?

Why do you assume its just one? Its ALL of them.

>>> "kspeak, link to the study which states that NYC has more "culture, wealth, and educated people," than Chicago?"

This is not my post, but it needs no defense. Nobody studies this because it's a given. It's just like their aren't studies comparing, say, Hemmingway or Faulkner to John Grishman or Danielle Steele. They aren't even in the same category.

P.S. - The strange names refer to great american authors and best seller novelists, respectively.

kspeak, you still believe that NYC has more wealth, even though the financial crisis is destroying the city?

you have no idea what you're talking about. you should stop drinking the NYC kool-aid.

LINCOLN PARK | Crime novelist attacked while jogging, in scene similar to new book

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1282244,CST-NWS-mug16.article

> kspeak, you still believe that NYC has more wealth, even though the financial crisis is destroying
> the city?

Absolutely. NYC would have to decline 99.9% to get down to Chicago levels.

And lets not forget Chicago is tanking... and it started its tanking earlier.

Rufus -- if you dislike NYC so much and LOVE chicago -- please go live there, get off these boards, stop speaking just to hear your own voice, and go find some people who give a hoot about your opinions. You probably think you are being quirky or clever -- but IMHO -- nobody cares about chicago on these boards -- nor do they need to hear from you. In fact, I suggest a "boycott Rufus" movement... Others pls feel free to join???! Rufus -- please feel free to never comment on these boards again...

I've lived in NYC for 25 years, having relocated from Chicago, and I have to say the weather is much better here. I've never shopped Canal Street. Some truck vendors serve pretty decent food and are inexpensive, while others aren't worth the money at any price. I don't have a problem with a variety of commerce in the city.