World War 3 2009? tensions running tight?
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Tensions brewing in the middle east. Will Iran/Syria enter the conflict?? If so, what will be the response of the U.S.? what will be the response of Russia? Russia is ready to back Iran, and China has not picked a side. Europe seems silenced, the U.S. with it's hands in Afghanistan and Iraq seem off guard but ready to enter another war, thus confronting/Syria with Iran. Pakistan and India, the battle is under way. The entire Middle east could go up in flames, engaging the entire globe as the possibility of nuclear possibilities increase day by day. Just what we need to solve our financial problems, war war and more war. only this time, it could be fatal for all of us. Hope for peace, and pray for not another war! 2009.
The Great Depression ended thanks to WWII. WWIII might be good for the economy.
What is with people?
Russia blames U.S. for Financial crisis
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSL0749277620080607
Russia announces big arms plan with Iran
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2008/12/israel_worried.php
China signs 16B Gas deal with Iran
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2008/12/israel_worried.php
U.S. moves ships into Iranian coast
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/news-desk/2008/3/11/6-signs-the-us-may-be-headed-for-war-in-iran.html
Russian Professor predicts end of U.S.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
These may be the dumbest articles of all time.
World War I ends with German defeat.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ends2.htm
Adolf Hitler becomes leader of National Socialist 'Nazi' Party.
Hitler publishes Mein Kamph
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm
Stock Market on Wall Street crashes.
Germans elect Nazis making them the 2nd largest political party in Germany.
Adolf Hitler becomes Chancellor of Germany.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/chancll1.htm
The Reichstag burns.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/reichstag.htm
First concentration camp opened at Oranienburg outside Berlin.
Enabling Act gives Hitler dictatorial power.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/enabling.htm
Nazi boycott of Jewish owned shops.
Nazis burn books in Germany.
Nazis open Dachau concentration camp.
Nazi party declared only party in Germany.
Germany quits the League of Nations.
Nazis murder Austrian Chancellor Dollfuss.
German President Hindenburg dies.
Adolf Hitler becomes Führer of Germany.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/becomes.htm
German Jews stripped of rights by Nuremberg Race Laws.
The German Gestapo is placed above the law.
Mussolini's Italian forces take Ethiopia.
Franco declared head of Spanish State.
Soviet leader Stalin begins a purge of Red Army generals.
Germany announces 'Anschluss' (union) with Austria.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/austria.htm
German military mobilizes.
British Prime Minister Chamberlain appeases Hitler at Munich.
Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/knacht.htm
Let us hope tensions in the middle east do not provoke other players.
i dont remember a time, in my lifetime where the world has been in so much turmoil going into a new year. Anyone here re-call a situation as such?
Thinktwice, I would restate your quote to be as follows...
"I don't remember a time, in my lifetime where there has been so much hope and opportunity going into a new year."
What a wonderful time to be an American!
(Lousy time to own real estate in Manhattan that you're trying to sell, but a great time to be an American!)
ClintonB - I think you're watching too much History (aka Hitler) Channel! Note that Hitler and WWII is getting pumped up in the media right now due to Tom Cruise's new movie, Valykrie. Try not to let yourself get too brainwashed by it!
As a child, I was convinced it was stupid to reproduce given that we were all going to die in a nuclear holocaust. That hasn't happened yet.
So Syria is in the news, as well as Egypt. Will the end of the world happen this time? Will we have our 5 year banking crisis courtesy of Aboutready's misstatement of Jamie Dimon?
And this: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/21700-obama-pro-illegal-immigration-to-stop-gay-marriage
Too funny.
Indians Attack Domino's Outlet Over Diplomat's Arrest In New York
Shyamantha Asokan and Sruthi Gottipati | Dec. 20, 2013 5:35 PM | 1,658 | 32
REUTERS/Mansi Thapliyal
A policeman (R) talks to an employee of a Dominos Pizza outlet after it was ransacked by activists of the Republican Party of India (RPI) in a Mumbai suburb December 20, 2013.
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Indian protesters ransacked a Domino's Pizza outlet in a Mumbai suburb on Friday, demanding a ban on U.S. goods, as officials from the two countries tried to defuse a dispute over the arrest of an Indian diplomat in New York.
The United States said it wanted to "move beyond" the matter and underscored the importance of its ties with India, but a senior Indian official called for an American apology.
Police and the Indian franchise of the U.S. chain said no one was hurt in the attack, which came amid unrelenting rage in India over the arrest and subsequent strip-search of Devyani Khobragade for visa fraud and under-payment of her housekeeper, also an Indian national.
India has demanded that the charges be dropped against the diplomat. Her father threatened to begin a fast if U.S. authorities press ahead with the case. In an unusual move, the United States has flown the family of the housekeeper, Sangeeta Richard, out of India.
Police in Mumbai said they were stepping up patrols of major U.S. outlets including McDonald's after workers of the small Republican Party of India attacked the Domino's store. The group sent pictures to media organizations showing a broken glass door.
"The fact is that (the) American authorities have behaved atrociously with an Indian diplomat. And obviously, America has to make good for its actions," said Manish Tiwari, India's minister for information and broadcasting.
"So therefore, I think it is a legitimate expectation, that if they have erred, and they have erred grievously in this matter, they should come forth and apologize."
Khobragade serves as India's deputy consul general in New York.
NO 'CLEAN SLATE'
In an apparent attempt by India to find a way out of the crisis, the United Nations said it received an official request from New Delhi to accredit Khobragade as a member of that country's permanent U.N. mission in what appeared to be a move to give her a stronger form of diplomatic immunity.
Diplomatic sources said that while such broader immunity could not be applied retroactively to cover the charges she faces by removing the indictment, it could make it harder to follow through on a prosecution against her.
U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said any change in the diplomat's accreditation status would not provide a "clean slate from past charges."
It was not immediately clear if there would be any impact on Khobragade's diplomatic immunity due to the transfer of her accreditation from the Indian consulate in New York, which handles bilateral issues, to the U.N. mission, which oversees India's activities at the world body's headquarters.
Asked whether a change in her diplomatic immunity status could prevent Khobragade from being arrested again or enable her to leave the United States - a possible solution to the matter - Psaki said, "I don't want to speculate on that."
She side-stepped a question as to whether the United States would apologize to India about the issue, but underscored the importance of U.S.-Indian relations.
"We certainly fully agree that it's important to preserve and protect our partnership. It's not just about diplomatic ties," Psaki told reporters, citing more than $90 billion in bilateral trade, close counterterrorism cooperation and engagement on a range of topics including Afghanistan.
"And we want to move beyond this, and I think we all recognize the importance of our long-term relationship," Psaki added.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry expressed regret over the case in a phone call to India's national security adviser this week, but U.S. prosecutors have defended the investigation against Khobragade and her treatment. Before this diplomatic blow-up, U.S.-Indian relations were seen as cordial and improving.
Khobragade was arrested last week and released on $250,000 bail after surrendering her passport and pleading not guilty to charges of visa fraud and making false statements about how much she paid her housekeeper. She faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted on both counts.
The U.S. Justice Department confirmed that Khobragade was strip-searched after her arrest. A senior Indian government source has said the interrogation also included a cavity search, although U.S. officials have denied this.
DIPLOMAT'S FATHER
"I want these false and fabricated charges to be dropped," said Uttam Khobragade, the diplomat's father, adding that he would go on a hunger strike if his demands aren't met. "That will be my last option."
Protesters also gathered at the U.S. consulate in Hyderabad for a second day on Friday, shouting slogans, local media said.
In New York, a few dozen protesters including several domestic workers from South and Southeast Asia gathered outside India's consulate, chanting slogans and waving posters demanding that Khobragade's diplomatic immunity be waived.
"Passports revoked, slave wages, restricted communication - this constitutes trafficking workers," said Leah Obias, an organizer with the migrant-workers rights group Damayan. "There are diplomats trafficking workers all over the city and we demand justice."
Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said on Wednesday Richard's family had been brought to the United States after legal efforts had begun in India "to silence her, and attempts were made to compel her to return to India.
Furious that one of its foreign service officers had been handcuffed and treated like "a common criminal", India on Tuesday removed security barriers outside the U.S. embassy in New Delhi and withdrew some privileges from U.S. diplomats.
The reaction in India was even more intense because none of the political parties preparing for next year's general election wanted to be seen as weak against a superpower.
Politicians, including the leaders of the two main parties, refused to meet a delegation of visiting U.S. lawmakers.
"Because of the election, they will try to outdo each other," said Neerja Chowdhury, a political analyst and a former political editor of Indian Express newspaper.
"They don't want to be seen as weak on the issue when the mood in the country is one of huge anger about this."
The party that runs India's most populous state, Uttar Pradesh, urged Khobragade to stand for parliament, highlighting how public outrage has turned the case into a battleground for votes.
(Additional reporting by Shilpa Jamkhandikar and Nandita Bose in Mumbai; Tabassum Zakaria and Will Dunham in Washington; Louis Charbonneau and Elizabeth Dilts in New York; Editing by Paul Simao and Leslie Gevirtz)