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More rent/buy math on the UWS

Started by JohnDoe
about 17 years ago
Posts: 449
Member since: Apr 2007
You can buy for $1.15M ($1780 maint.) or rent for $4k/month. This is a price/annual rent ratio of just under 24. Alternatively, assuming $4k/month in rent and $1780 of maintenance, the $1.15M purchase produces cash flow of $2,220/month or $26,640/year, for a 2.32% return. Either way, looks like price needs to come down significantly to fall in line with rent.
Response by columbiacounty
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2009

yes...but the more relevant math (and of course, unknowable) is whether the underlying price will go up or down over time. ironically, i think the rent being asked is probably on the high side as well!

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Response by upperwestrenter
about 17 years ago
Posts: 488
Member since: Jan 2009

This place is overpriced...the kitchen is from the 70's (at best) and that wall of mirrors made me dizzy. The bathrooms have been redone and are nice (certainly when compared to the kitchen) but the fixtures are nothing special.
Saw a place on 78th and WEA, 2 BR, 2 Bath that was at least 40% larger and $995K.
Although the fireplace is nice, the pink walls, kitchen and built ins are gross.
And if they simply got some of their crap out of there it might show better (or, if you want to rent, no sooner then May 1st)
Good luck with that!

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Response by PMG
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2008

a TWO bedroom COOP for sale or for rent? This downturn is going to be bloody.

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Response by upperwestrenter
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2009

but for us upperwestside renters (or buyers) it will be beautiful!

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Response by Squid
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

Place is an eyesore. Ugly, ugly, ugly. No WAY I'd pay $4k for this second floor tackapalooza.

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Response by upperwestrenter
about 17 years ago
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I think for $3K I would think about it...but those walls and mirrors are really gross.

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Response by crescent22
about 17 years ago
Posts: 953
Member since: Apr 2008

No way it sells for over $1000/s.f., and I have it ballparked around 1050 sf

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Response by platelet
about 17 years ago
Posts: 2
Member since: Jan 2009

Yeah, hi JohnDoe, your second math works better than your first, or a 43.1x P/E is more accurate. The real rent vs. buy math is that the owner nets the $26K per year, or that the renter is effectively paying the owner $26K and then paying maintenance of $21.4K

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Response by newbuyer99
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

Second floor is an issue (how is noise in that location?), and the kitchen is not great, but I think the $4K rental price is actually pretty reasonable. Good-size two bedroom, big living room, nice floors, pretty good location, open kitchen, etc.

Asking sale price is another story, of course...

I agree that the place would show better with less crud, plus renting in a coop is a pain, so it may take some time and/or a price drop to rent, despite the $4K not being outrageous.

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