Long Island City

stay away from there... far away...

#2 If you don't have anything useful to say then maybe you shouldn't post.

http://www.queenswest.com/directory/real_estate

Because of the ready access to Manhattan and extraordinary view the area affords of the skyline (w/o having to be in Jersey no less), I would have to think that eventually this will be a great area. BTW, I am a native Manhattanite, who lives and works (not in real estate) in Manhattan and have no intention of leaving.

#3 I'm #2, your an idiot make your font smaller, what you wrote isn't useful either, go jump off a cliff

I saw a bunch of them this weekend. Amazing wide open spaces, tons of sf, but developers seem to be cutting corners with the finishes (ex. the badge, the echelon, purves). Exception to this was the Fusion, which was a beautiful high end building, but crappy area right near a huge multi-leveled parking garage... I'd rather have a building closer to the waterfront.

Potentially the views are amazing & it is just a few stops from downtown but so near & yet so far. I'm sorry to hear that the quality is poor. The area has great history & potential but it's never come to fruition. Before I bought over there I'd need to know the answer as to why not.

I was very interested in the LIC neighborhood. But after some research I found out that I couldn't afford it.

In my opinion, LIC has a great potential to become a great area. You are 1 or 2 stops away from Grand Central on the 7 line. You are blocks away from the Queensborough bridge. The Gantry park is beautiful with a great view on Manhattan. You have a couple of nice restaurants and bars on Vernon Blvd. It is almost impossible to find 3-year old (or older) apts for sale in that neighborhood. You would have to purchase a condo from those new developments. The price/sqft starts at $600-$700.

I agree with comment #7. Some new developments have bad finishes, e.g. the ECHELON.

Just go and see these condos. They have lots of open-houses on week-ends.

"stay away from there... far away..."

#2, I'm surprised to hear you say that. What are the downsides to Long Island City?

LIRR train noise

alan- you commented on a thread from 3 years ago? You always were weird.

There goes LIC again, defending the indefensible.

http://www.wirednewyork.com/queens/images/queensbridge_houses_8feb04.jpg

steve- how is that dumpy rental of yours in the Theater District three blocks from the projects? (LOL)

My dumpy rental?

http://www.ellingtonnyc.com/

DIVINE, thanks for asking.

8th Avenue- http://wirednewyork.com/images/taxi/taxi_eighth_avenue.jpg

Not bad, LICC - except you're about 12 blocks south of where I live, taking a picture of the traffic waiting to get into the Lincoln Tunnel.

Surely you can do better than that!

LICcomm, that's an excellent picture, capturing as it does everything New York about New York -- the vibrancy, the kinetic energy, diversity, old and new intertwined, bright colors and a rainbow of stolid greys intermixed, unpretentious ethnic food, et c.

Thank you for posting it, LICcomm. It contrasts sharply with pictures of Long Island City, which I suspect are just relabeled photos of Cleveland anyway.

Surely LICcomm *cannot* do better than that!

where and when the photo in stevejhx post was taken?

LICC's nabe:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Hunterspoint_Av_IRT_Stair_jeh.JPG

My nabe:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Worldwide-plaza-fountain-small.jpg

And LICC - at least we have taxis in my nabe! Take us a picture of a taxi in Long Island City - without a shotgun under the seat.

HAHAHAHA!

LIC- http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_t6rV3U9ZEHM/Slq3D7IfkHI/AAAAAAAAZ_4/cygsbUupyuo/s1600-h/LongIslandCityPiers.jpg

http://www.liqcity.com/neighborhood/long-island-city-greens-up-at-the-waterfront-gantry-park-extended

Or, by steve:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/Lofter1/8th%20Avenue/54th8th_01b.jpg

More LIC:

http://www.nycedc.com/LivingInNYC/TheFiveBoroughs/Queens/PublishingImages/QueensSlide1.jpg

http://www.nycedc.com/LivingInNYC/TheFiveBoroughs/Queens/PublishingImages/QueensSlide2.jpg

Some more:

http://www.collaborativelandscape.org/w/images/a/a4/PathwayGarden.jpg

http://www.pps.org/graphics/upo-pages/10_qualities_of_a_great_waterfront5_large

Another by steve:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/willefors/RoWB2d7nd-I/AAAAAAAADfs/vrXHzMDW5hs/200705171535.jpg

You're wrong on that one, Steve -- Long Island City is FULL of taxi garages ... they just won't stop to pick anyone up on their way to New York when they begin their shifts.

I'm convince that Steve & Alan are 60+ year old retards.
Folks that are stuck in the old world and refuse to see changes.

Good luck staring out the window...

http://freemovement.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/brick_wall.jpg

Ah yes, Long Island City, the New World, where the sidewalks are paved with depleted uranium and people can free themselves from the tyranny of Tsarito Misha Bloombergov.

"The 6-acre waterfront Gantry Park extension opened with a public ribbon cutting" - FLMAO.

A tiny 6-acre extension? And THAT's a cause for much celebration? Whatever, LIC dudes.

You're out of step, LICC: your 54th & 8th pic is of a place that doesn't exist anymore - it's being redeveloped and is now a construction site.

I don't know where the other pics are from; not around here, that's for sure.

Here's the full view of all the pics you posted, once you take the camera off telescopic:

http://www.entephoto.com/DSCF6872%20copy%202.jpg

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/25/epa-will-review-pollution-at-newtown-creek/

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nybits.com/images/photo/long_island_city_2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nybits.com/photos/long_island_city_2.html&h=360&w=480&sz=83&tbnid=knM_Y3bKqC5y9M:&tbnh=97&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlong%2Bisland%2Bcity&hl=en&usg=__gYIQCr5EigE5kA3kFVTKS6ulCX0=&sa=X&ei=4dg9TJD8M4L68Abi2tymBg&ved=0CHoQ9QEwEQ

How is this even a debate? PLEASE say this ridiculous argument is just for fun, and to pass the time.

LIC is a destination? since when?

JP, this is no joke. LICC thinks that Long Island City IS THE GREATEST PLACE IN THE WORLD TO LIVE, even better than Manhattan, because it LOOKS OUT ON MANHATTAN.

LICC's main argument is that LIC is so great because it's just 5 minutes from Manhattan. Of course none of those of us who actually live in Manhattan think this is a great place because it's just 5 minutes from Long Island City.

But there you have it.

So, when's the wedding?

When Long Island City floats back to New Jersey, where it belongs.

True love is stronger than tectonics.

It belongs in post-industrial eastern Europe. It can sojourn in New Jersey on its way back.

No one who owns a condo in LIC would prefer to live in a dumpy rental building on 52nd and 8th. Fact.

"No one who owns a condo in LIC would [dare to convince himself that he really would] prefer to live in a dumpy rental building on 52nd and 8th. Fact."

Seriously LICC, do you think that your apt. price will eventually return to even, or make you a profit?

If not, why not just sell now, take your loss(isn't that a write-off),or take whatever cash you can, and rent a place in manhattan that's cheaper, while saving your money.

I'm actually thankful for streeteasy, because I almost bought an apt. last year, but the #'s NEVER work out, comparing to renting. I wish they did.

I appreciate any thoughts on this approach.

Thanks.

I wish they did, too, JP, but they don't. If they did I'd certainly buy someplace.

Just not in Long Island City.

JP, you are uninformed. You need to know more about which you speak before you comment. The LIC market has held up very well.

The numbers sometimes work out. From about 1995 to about 2001 buying was probably a better deal than renting in a lot of NYC neighborhoods. Especially if you sold in 2007!!

LICC, you are uninformed. You need to know more about which you speak before you comment. No one in his right mind would move to LIC, unless it was the last place on the face of the earth.

#8, what do you mean "so near & yet so far."?

What do you mean "I'm sorry to hear that the quality is poor."?

alan, that post was from three years ago. I know you are behind the times, but I didn't know it was this bad.

Interesting that #7 says "crappy area"

Funny, I Googled "Pleasures of Long Island City," and the answer back was:

No results found for "pleasures of long island city".

Telling.

LICC- you are correct, I'm not a real estate professional, nor do I claim to be, I'm just an average guy trying to figure out when to buy vs rent, and so far, renting works for me. It sure is nice to be liquid, and have flexibility year to year, especially when your landlord lowers your rent. So, why don't you inform everyone about your wise decision and how happy you are, since you're the professional. Sell me on LIC!

But, if you feel better insulting me that's fine. It's posters like you, who help me learn what NOT to do in real estate. So I do appreciate your help. Thanks!

You got caught up in the real estate mess of the last few years, you drank the kool-aid, and now you are trying to justify a purchase in an area that would need the olympics in NYC to thrive..... if that would even work.

Oh yes, and I'm uninformed.

Then I Googled "Pleasures of Manhattan" and the answer back was:

About 8,590 results (0.32 seconds)

Score: Manhattan 8590, Long Island City 0.

JP, you can keep making ignorant comments and try to insult everyone who calls LIC their home to try to make yourself feel better for having to rent and missing out on owning, but it doesn't change the facts.

"missing out on owning" in Long Island City? That's like saying, "Gee, I'm sorry I missed lunch with you yesterday, and I'm sorry you got salmonella."

Score: Manhattan 8590, Long Island City 0.

"Funny, I Googled "Pleasures of Long Island City," and the answer back was:
No results found for "pleasures of long island city".
Telling."

Steve, that's a great experiment, and very telling indeed! I tried applying it further. For instance, I googled "intelligence of stevejhx", which returned "No results found for "intelligence of stevejhx". But then I figured it was unfair to just go by your screen name, so I used "intelligence of steve hanley", and got "No results found for "intelligence of steve hanley" instead. Similar results were achieved using "humor", "good looks", and "knowledge about real estate". Telling.

Score: Long Island City 0, stevejhx 0. Match made in heaven.

That must be true about steve's intelligence, because an actual google search on LIC comes back with:

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,270,000

"I tried applying it further."

Excellent experiment, bjw, and you are to be congratulated! The problem is you didn't ask a) my mother, or b) my grandmother, to respond to your queries. They are not on the Internet, most especially my grandmother, as she is dead.

Also, you need to be less selective: try, for instance, steve hanley attractive, and you get:

About 45,000 results (0.24 seconds)

steve hanley "good looking" gets:

About 4,120 results (0.24 seconds)

I wouldn't have expected that I was more popular than Long Island City, but it seems to be so.

Well, Steve, as you certainly know, you only get "No results" because of the quotation marks. As LICComm says, if you remove them (as you did with your latest examples), you get 1.27m hits for your LIC search. So your score is still 0. Sorry.

The overwhelming number of google hits for Pleasures of Long Island City come from "Pure Pleasures Escort", part of the thriving business establishment of that district. I hope they rent their facility rather than own it ... it would be a shame to see a fine player in such an old business go belly-up.

Bottoms up!

bjw, your logic is flawed: I am but one person; Long Island City (Zip 11101) has a population of over 25,000. So one could reasonably expect an infinitely greater number of hits on Long Island City than on me.

Yet "steve hanley" attractive still gets:

About 156 results (0.26 seconds)

"Long Island City" pleasures gets:

About 18,900 results (0.25 seconds)

So I still win hands down, even if you count the escort service.

Steve, your logic is flawed. One should reasonably expect 25,000 times more hits, not infinitely more.

"steve hanley" boring:
About 1,080 results (0.25 seconds)

"long island city" boring:
About 35,600 results (0.22 seconds)

So, according to Google, you are approximately 758.4 times more boring than your average LIC resident. This might explain why this thread is now making me yawn uncontrollably.

"One should reasonably expect 25,000 times more hits."

Absolutely not. Links are logarithmic.

"you are approximately 758.4 times more boring than your average LIC resident"

Yet I seem to fascinate you.

Baloney about the links. People aren't more popular all of a sudden just because they're grouped. Poor logic.

It's not you that fascinates me; it's how much time and effort you put into bashing a local neighborhood. Baffling. Unless of course you secretly love it. Which has been my suspicion all along.

"Poor logic."

... but isn't that exactly the kind of logic, and only the kind of logic, to apply to a discussion about Long Island City? Apply rich logic, sound logic, or any other reason-based thought pattern, and the whole Long Island City construct collapses and vaporizes.

alan, touche. Didn't Steve come from LIC? That would explain the poor logic then. Pecuniary misunderstanding.

steve can't stand the fact that I have proven him wrong and made him look foolish over and over again, so he has developed an obsession with bashing LIC. Quite sad.

"steve can't stand the fact that I have proven him wrong and made him look foolish over and over again"

Yes, that must be it LICC - just how foolish you've made me look. I tell you, so ashamed am I that I walk down the avenues and across the streets of MANHATTAN, with my head hung low.

Did I mention that I live in Manhattan?

"he has developed an obsession with bashing LIC."

It's not necessary to "bash" LIC: it happens in an auto da fe sort of way.

LICcomm sounds just like Professor Chaos (played by Butters on South Park).

... except Butters at least gets to live in South Park instead of Long Island City.

"It's not necessary to "bash" LIC: it happens in an auto da fe sort of way."

But you do it anyway? And I don't think you know what an auto da fe is, but hey, why not?

And if LICComm is Butters, Steve is Dougie (aka General Disarray)? Amazing.

Don't know Butters, don't know Dougie. Sorry.

Indeed I do know what an "auto da fe" is - as I type I'm translating a Portuguese document from Mozambique into English, and "auto da fe" is Portuguese.

For "Writ of Faith."

Auto da fe?
Auto da fe:
It's what you ought not to do
But you do every day

Correction:

oughtn't to do,
but you do anyway

See 2:44 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5McSEU48Y8

"writ of faith" doesn't rhyme as well.

where's spunky?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/auto-da-fe

For your benefit, Estevao.

Yup, bjw, just what I said: In the term that they give, "Act of Faith," the "act" is a written order, the same as "writ." It is an old legal definition of "act" - look it up.

Whence, btw, "auto" in Spanish and Portuguese means both a record of a proceeding ("autos," normally), or an order written by a parliament, court, the church, or other official. "Da" is the Portuguese contraction for "of the," and "fe" is "faith."

In Spanish, "auto de fe," meaning "Castigo público de los penitenciados por el Tribunal de la Inquisición"

It is not necessarily the burning of a heretic - it usually refers to self-flagellation.

Sorry, I've never heard it used in that broad of a context. It's very strange. Even Merriam-Webster, in the broad use, says it refers to the burning of a heretic. But, as you wish.

Yes some dictionaries do refer to it as that - a Protestant bias, I suppose. Very few heretics were actually burned at the stake during the Inquisition. They were, however, forced to repent in public, which often meant walking around flagellating themselves, or carrying a cross with a crown of thorns.

Sort of like the torture that is living in Long Island City.

HAHAHAHAHA!

The "auto" was the written order containing their punishment; a "writ" if you want to use the Teutonic-root word, or an "act" if you want to use the Latin-root word.

Since it's Portuguese, you can look the word up here:

http://michaelis.uol.com.br/moderno/ingles/index.php?lingua=portugues-ingles&palavra=auto

More info here:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/44678/auto-da-fe

and here:

http://www.wirednewyork.com/queens/images/queensbridge_houses_8feb04.jpg

and here:

http://tinyurl.com/2aka95a