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Started by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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These Chicago rental buildings are better than any NYC rentals and nicer than most manhattan condos. It's unbelievable how vastly superior Chicago real estate is. http://www.thestreeter.com http://www.mcclurgcourt.com http://www.kingsburyplaza.com
Response by alpine292
almost 17 years ago
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I finally got it! Your a realtor in Chicago!!!!

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Response by columbiacounty
almost 17 years ago
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i'm kinda new here...what's the real scoop on Chicago? should i consider moving? how's the commute to 46th st?

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Response by columbiacounty
almost 17 years ago
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sorry...sorry...shouldn't encourage him, I know.

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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PsychoCrackerBoy says "It's unbelievable how vastly superior Chicago real estate is."

People in the world of the real reply "Yes, it is."

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Response by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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Which NYC rental buildings are better than the ones I linked to? Probably the best rental in manhattan is glenwood's grand tier, but that looks like crap compared to the Chicago buildings.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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so you've devolved to the point that you are now trying to judge a city based on its rental buildings? When will you learn that people judge (and move to and live in) cities by all their parts, not simply how many glass condos there are. Never. Instead you'll just go and start yet another new thread. I'm starting to think it wasn't Columbia University you were rejected from but ColumbiaCare.

"ColumbiaCare Services is a non-profit company that provides a full range of mental health and residential services for citizens of Oregon and Idaho. "

http://www.columbiacare.org/

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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Better than the ones you linked to? Let's see, first of all there are the Fulton Houses and Chelsea-Eliot Houses in Chelsea. Then you got your Amsterdam Houses near Columbus Circle, and a bunch more in other parts of the Upper West Side, and then . . . well, really the list goes on and on.

Here's the marketing website: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/html/assistance/app_for_pubhsg.shtml

But there's a huge waitlist because Manhattan is the most desirable city in the world, so make contingency plans. I guess move into one of the buildings you linked if you have to.

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Response by metalhead
almost 17 years ago
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Chicago sucks, but those are pretty nice buildings, especially for rentals.

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Response by kspeak
almost 17 years ago
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too bad it's in chicago and you have to endure gang crossfire just to get to your luxury hi-rise. where is it relative to the chicago gang map?

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Response by jgr
almost 17 years ago
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Any reason McClurg Court is much cheaper than the other two?

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Response by jenny9823
almost 17 years ago
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i have officially "ignored" rufus... as a liberal american, ive always been against censorship... but in this case i had to do it. Feel great now.

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Response by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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If NYC is supposedly more "wealthy" and "upscale" than Chicago, as you idiots claim, how come NYC doesn't have apartment buildings as nice as Chicago?

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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This just came out.

Middle class in NYC is making $123,322 a year,
Middle class in Chicago is making $63,421 a year.

But no, that wouldn't constitute 'more wealthy' would it?

http://gothamist.com/2009/02/06/50k_in_houston_equals_120k_in_nyc_r.php

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Response by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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That data just means that NYC is grossly overpriced.

Also, the comments section below was great because several new yorkers praised Chicago and said they would easily consider moving there. One guy made the true claim that Chicago has the best restaurants in the country. Another said that Chicago has all the advantages of a major city without its disadvantages.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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Wow two anonymous people made "claims" on Gothamist. That is the coolest sh*t I've ever heard. Thank god for the internet or I might have been left out of the loop on that one.

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Response by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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Most chefs and culinary critics agree that Chicago's restaurants scene has surpassed NYC. But you're obviously too dumb to know that since your idea of "fine dining" is the TGIF at times square.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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Most doctors and medical professionals agree that Rufus has severe dementia and NPD. But you're obviously too dumb to know that since you sit at your computer living a lie all day long.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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let me see if I have this right...

Rufus is yet another alias for quantum/JohnAnthony, who was rejected by his dream school and dream city, Columbia and New York City.

He loved the city until sour grapes set in...

This is all well documented...
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/8131-rufus-mystery-solved

He is so jealous he spends all day trying to post negatively about NYC.

Man, this guy is so pathetic...

"got rejected at columbia business and am pretty devastated."

"Oh well. I have to spend an extra year in shitty Chicago and reapply for round 1 next year."

"I've been to NYC several times but haven't really partied extensively. But almost everyone I've talked to who lives there tells me how NYC is so much fun and doesn't really get boring, people are interesting, etc. To what extent is this true? What makes NYC so much more fun than other cities like LA, SF, Boston, Chicago, etc.?"

"I live in Chicago but have been to NYC quite a few times and noticed a very sharp difference in the respective social scenes. Chicago seems much more fratty and bar oriented while NYC is a bit more upscale and pretentious. The girls in NYC also dress a lot better as well. I would like to hear opinions on this subject from those of you familiar with both cities."

"Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just really bummed out since I'm 27 years old, and now is the perfect time to go. And socially, I'm extremely dissatisfied with Chicago and really want to be in NYC. I just have to improve my application for next year and hope things turn out better"

Now that he's been rejected multiple times, he's changed his story a bit.

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Response by buster2056
almost 17 years ago
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It's sad how far Rufus has fallen.

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Response by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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What I actually love about this OP's postings is that they bring out responses that really highlight how much people love New York City. The fierceness and sharpness of the responses to him on here are pretty cool. If anything, rufus and his aliases (how does he decide which one to use at any given moment?) end up promoting NYC by getting so many people to post about why they love it here. The energy, diversity, and siren-pitch of life in NYC come roaring through the responses to his posts. It's great. I hope he doesn't stop.

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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It's sad how far Rufus has fallen from his glory days several months ago as a delusional miscreant who suffers from the paradoxical effects of his psychotropic pharmaceuticals.

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Response by aboutready
almost 17 years ago
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rufus doesn't understand the economics of land prices.

kylewest, I agree, rufus makes me feel much happier about NYC. yesterday my family was looking at a condo on w. 17th between 5th and 6th. after seeing the unit we all said what a great location. my husband started to laugh, pointing out the broken glass, scaffolding, empty retail spots. all three of us said, but it's still a great location. and for us it is.

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Response by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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YUCK! West 17th street is near the housing projects. That area is dirty and grimy. How is that a "great location?" Are your standards really that low?

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Response by alanhart
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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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17th Street between 5th and 6th is not near the projects. I understand that to you, viewing this from google earth, it appears as so however it is not. There's a banana republic and an aldo at the corner for 17th and 5th. Is that grimy?

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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I believe there was recently the US flagship location of Armani Exchange at that same intersection.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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A block north or south you have things like Coach, Anthropology, Esprit, Kenneth Cole and Zara. But I suppose to someone like rufus those are grimy. Oh and apparently those constitute low standards.

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Response by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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West 17th street is a lousy place to live. Not as bad as west 14th, but definitely not a desirable location. The condos in that area have been struggling to attract buyers.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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you do realize you are making no distinction between any of the different strips of West 17th St right? West 17th between 5th and 6th is just a little different than West 17th between 10th and 11th. But you wouldn't know that.

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Response by licarijo
almost 17 years ago
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I used to live near Chicago so I've been there hundreds of times plus I currently live in NYC so I'm pretty familiar with both cities. No doubt that Chicago is a nice city...and if I was ever forced to live somewhere other than NYC I would choose Chicago...big city, clean, the lake, affordable etc. The one issue I have with Chicago is like Sizzlack pointed out...it's pretty one dimensional and mostly young white 20's,/young 30's, frat/sorority crowd that all live and hang out there....if you grow up in the mid west it's pretty much the one place kids go live after college but almost always eventually move out before the age of 30 once they get married and settle down. There is not much of scene there for anyone over 40. Most of the neighborhoods and bars have the same atmosphere and style....Murray Hill meet Upper East Side (minus the kids and dogs).

After looking at the rental posting though it does kill me to know what you could get for your money in Chicago compared to NYC...and like Rufus originally pointed out...understand just how grossly overpriced Manhattan really is. Then again, it has to be cheaper for rent because 1) it’s mostly young kids right out of college with no money 2) you make less money there (I’d say about 20% less) and 3) difficult to live there w/o a car so you have to factor in a car payment.

Bottom line…I like both cities but prefer Manhattan for the diversity and better social scene. However, while the women in Manhattan may be slightly more attractive compared to Chicago I’ll take a Chicago girl any day because they don’t come with the attitude that world owes them a favor because their pretty like you get with most east coast girls.

By the way…Rufus is still annoying.

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Response by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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Rufus is now comparing W 14 St and W 17 St? Has he ever been to NYC? A cross-town thoroughfare and a Chelsea side street? And where exactly on W14 St, Ruffy? 5 to 6 Aves? or 9th-10th Aves and the Highline? Different areas. And you know, those "projects' a half mile away from 5th and 17th? I guess Mesa Grill and Paul Smith didn't know about those when they moved in at 16th Street a decade ago? And what exactly do you think comes out of a couple of buildings a 1/2 mile away? Crime within those buildings (to the extent it even exists since NYC crime is at lowest levels since 1960 -- FYI we're not breaking homicide records here like Chicago is...weren't there like 40 SCHOOL KIDS murdered in Chicago in 2007 or 2008?) tend to remain isolated within the complex.

You reveal your ignorance by your lack of real experience in NYC. Why don't you ever say where you really live? Chicken? Pluck, pluck, pluck, pluck...

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Response by aboutready
almost 17 years ago
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my standards are high enough to keep my out of chicago

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Response by buster2056
almost 17 years ago
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I actually looked at the "luxury" rentals - horribly depressing. Reminds me of stale generic corporate housing. God, I love NY!

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Response by rufus
almost 17 years ago
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buster2056, so you don't like brand new sleek apartments that offer great amenities and in nice locations? I guess you prefer the shitty walkup apartments that make up most of manhattan's rental stock.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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it isn't a nice location if it's in Chicago. No one here wants a 1,000+ mile commute.

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Response by buster2056
almost 17 years ago
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Actually, I generally do not like brand new sleek apartments. And even if I did, the examples you showed are generic and boring. They look like they were ripped from Minneapolis. I'm getting physically ill just thinking about it. Please, God, never make me to move to Chicago!

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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It's not so much the commute. No one in NYC wants to have to travel over 1,000 miles from Chicago for any enjoyable leisure activities, like for example intelligent conversation.

kylewest, you make some good points about crime, but in fact I'm nearly certain that crime rates *in* those housing projects are near zero, and what crime exists is strictly between people who know each other, not random. What PsychoCrackerBoy doesn't understand is that NY's housing projects have always been for the working poor / lower-middle-classes, not truly poor. Think cashier--not a scary prospect. In fact, for many decades a home visit was a required part of the application process.

He foolishly compares Chicago's "dy-no-mite" projects with NYs. But the two places are not comparable for anything--one is a world-class city, while the other is a great big town on a great big lake.

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Response by buster2056
almost 17 years ago
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Not to be dramatic or anything, but I would sooner burn my eyeballs out of my skull with flaming coals than move to Chicago.

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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Flaming coals are backordered for months for that very reason.

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Response by buster2056
almost 17 years ago
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Alanhart, LOL. And god bless you for trying to educate poor, lost rufus.

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Response by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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OMFG! Has anyone actually looked at rufus's links! These are the ugliest f-cking apartments I've seen--and he holds these out as the GREAT ones! LMAO!

The Streeter: Hey, if you are dying for a place that boasts "GE appliances" and "miniblinds on all windows" this one is for you! Are you kidding me!

McClurg: grotesque monolith that offer the dreariness of suburbia in an urban environment. Stupid layouts with odd shaped rooms. What on earth makes this place appealing other than views?

Kingsbury: just the most pedestrian looking cramped apartments. Non-descript.

These places have a decidedly pedestrian taste level and I can only imagine whom they are marketed toward. NY'ers would eat that city alive. What a buffoon this rufus is to think this dreck would appeal to anyone in NY. YUCK! Plus you end up in chicago to boot!

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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They're custom made for Rent-A-Center furnishings. (Some of the apartment shots are post-repo, though).

And by the way, Rent-A-Center, which is as good a harbinger of extreme poverty as any, has a Lincoln Park location. Telling.

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Response by upperwestrenter
almost 17 years ago
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Chicago is a sweet city, but if you want to be in the center of it all...come to NYC.
Rufus, stay in Chicago, you couldn't cut it here chief

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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PsychoCrackerBoy isn't in Chicago (that's why he calls Navy Pier "Navy Piers"). He's in Elkhart, Indiana. At least for today, in honor of President Obama's visit. The rest of the time he's in Hammond, Indiana.

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Response by kylewest
almost 17 years ago
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I still can't get over he thinks these are nice!! LOL.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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wow look at that...Forbes just ranked Chicago as the third most miserable city in the U.S.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/06/most-miserable-cities-business-washington_0206_miserable_cities_slide_4.html?thisSpeed=15000

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Response by ubbatubba
almost 17 years ago
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I came.
I saw.
Nothing new here.
See you folks in anothe month. or six.

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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ubbatubba -- we'll really try to change so when you come back in six months it's something completely different.

Sizzlack -- I was sure that would be a fake URL, but instead it's pure brilliance. I love that Chicago was correctly identified as more miserable even than Detroit, Flint and Cleveland. I think it deserves its own thread, because the misery of others is a hot commodity right now.

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Response by Sizzlack
almost 17 years ago
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I know right. It's almost like someone at Forbes is secretly watching us.

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