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Looking for a ground floor unit - UWS

Started by lola18
almost 15 years ago
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Anyone know of ground floor units on the upper west side? We missed out on one in the 70s. I feel it's going to be a better deal for us..... Also pros and cons of this?
Response by newaccount
almost 15 years ago
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Want to sell drugs out the window?

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Response by NWT
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Response by lola18
almost 15 years ago
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I love it -- but we can't afford a million. Thanks though!

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Response by Msh8044
almost 15 years ago
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What's your price range? Looking for a 1 bedroom or 2?

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Response by West81st
almost 15 years ago
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Off the top of my head:
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/563289-coop-890-west-end-ave-manhattan-valley-new-york
Might be too far north for you, though,

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Response by bramstar
almost 15 years ago
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By the way, IMO there are real cons to purchasing a ground floor unit, namely, noise, lack of light and lack of privacy.

Do you really want to be listening to someone's cell-phone convo outside your window at 2am? Or need to keep curtains drawn all the time to avoid nosy passersby? Plus, bars on windows can be depressing. And you're more likely to get vermin (mice, waterbugs) in a low-floor apartment.

These are things you really should consider as you weigh your options.

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Response by maudymay
almost 15 years ago
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Ground floor can be ideal. True about the noise in the front if there's no setback, but in the back the quiet can be sublime, not to mention the potential for substantial outdoor space. Noise can be dealt with by installing soundproof windows and finding something that is setback from the immediate sidewalk. We see about four silverfish a year, always coming up from the drains, and yes it took some mice proofing to deal with one year of a couple critters making it in. BUT... not having to climb stairs, or even share elevators is fantastic. Privacy tends to be much higher also. You can lose some light depending on the configuration but if you're able to step out a back door onto a garden or patio it makes up for that in spades. There's also something that no one ever talks about, after 30 years of always having someone living under me it was a real joy to know that there was only solid ground beneath my feet and that myself, the kids and the dog could clomp around in heavy boots to our hearts content and not disturb anyone underneath us. Find a place with outdoor space, a private groundfloor entrance and a decent ceiling height and you're in urban heaven.

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Response by lola18
almost 15 years ago
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Thank you so much for finding these. How come when I do a general search, none of these come up?

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Response by bramstar
almost 15 years ago
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lola--you need to do an advanced search and enter pertinent keywords (ground floor, maisonette, lobby level and the like).

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Response by lola18
almost 15 years ago
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Thank you! I really appreciate the listings you've sent me. Super helpful. Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 600k -- so we're probably looking at a one bedroom which can be converted into a nursery. I don't mind the ground level -- though of course would prefer the back of the building. We love the UWS and 70s. I am hoping more will come onto the market soon.... this winter has been bleak.

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Response by bramstar
almost 15 years ago
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no prob! You can set up a search on SE that will alert you when listings matching your criteria hit the market.

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Response by somewhereelse
almost 15 years ago
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To me, one of the huge potential advantages of a ground floor space is the duplex "basement".

The lower space is usually priced significantly below other space psf, and its a great way to get a lot of space in Manhattan. I love views and light, but I could be sold on something with outdoor space and a big "basement" that could be used for an entertainment room, second bedroom, etc, etc. Or even just storage, we know what that is worth.

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Response by streetsmart
almost 15 years ago
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I am a broker and am selling a ground floor apartment on the Gold Coast. It's a great deal.

Live on 5th Avenue for under $500k.

Perhaps you'll change your preferences.

See the listing, it's on streeteasy; 45 Fifth Ave.

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Response by newaccount
almost 15 years ago
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That looks like a nice apt, but please present a professional floor plan.

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Response by andreanm7
almost 15 years ago
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Lola. What are you looking for? I may have a great suggestion and reasonable.

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Response by lola18
almost 15 years ago
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We're looking for a one bedroom (with space to convert a nursery). We love the UWS -- 70s are ideal, but are willing to go outside that grid. Thanks for any help/advice.

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Response by andreanm7
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What's your price range?

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Response by pyxis
almost 15 years ago
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Use floorplanner.com to easily create a neat looking floorplan.

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Response by lola18
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Less than $600,000.

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Response by newaccount
almost 15 years ago
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With that budget, try Lower East Side.

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Response by fhsack
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Response by lola18
almost 15 years ago
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There are certainly ground floor units in this price range on the UWS. I've seen a few -- but for some reason or another they weren’t right. I still don’t want to give up hope.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 15 years ago
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Am I allowed to say that if you want to convert part of a 1br to a nursery, that maybe you're better off renting a 2br? Same out of pocket costs.

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Response by spinnaker1
almost 15 years ago
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Are you concerned at all about the resale? Personally I can find some real upside to living on a good ground floor apartment, in fact I came very close to this one. http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/385075-coop-645-west-end-avenue-upper-west-side-new-york

I have moved enough to consider resale almost as much as I consider anything else in a purchase, so in the end I decided I didn't want the added concern.

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Response by lbs10021
almost 15 years ago
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There is a ground floor, 2 br. in our dm building on the East side (55 E. 76th) priced at $575K--high ceilings and prewar details. However it needs a major renovation. PS 6 zone. I mention it becuse it may be of interest but it is in the East 70's, not West 70's.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 15 years ago
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As I am sure you noticed, spinny, that ground floor unit was for sale at virtually the same price as the same line 3 floors up. No ground floor discount.

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Response by lola18
almost 15 years ago
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We have considered renting and that may be the way to go. I am waiting for spring when more apts come on the market. If nothing does, we'll end up renting this Summer.

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Response by aboutready
almost 15 years ago
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that listing for 645 WEA states it's a second floor elevation.

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Response by spinnaker1
almost 15 years ago
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Maybe so 23, but those 12'6" ceilings on the first floor were ridiculous. It felt like the map room at the library.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 15 years ago
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What was it, spinny? Above 1st floor or not?

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Response by NWT
almost 15 years ago
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The first floor there is raised maybe half a floor. The windowsills are on a level with the bottom of 639's canopy.

Nice wood in the dining room, and the jib door to the kitchen set into the panelling.

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Response by spinnaker1
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Yeah, it was a high first floor. If I remember correctly the lobby was maybe 6 feet up from street level.

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