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Started by Riversider
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Case Schiller was down YOY 3.4% as of November s&p 500 flat for the year Barclays aggregate bond index up around 8% ytd Gold was up 10% --- So what will 2012 be like?
Response by falcogold1
about 14 years ago
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2012 Best Year ever until December 21, 2012 where we are all consumed in a firey cosmic event.

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Response by huntersburg
about 14 years ago
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Phew! I thought that the cosmic event would be 9 days earlier.

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Response by Brooks2
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the Hopi and Mayan elders do not prophesy that everything will come to an end. Rather, this is a time of transition from one World Age into another

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Response by falcogold1
about 14 years ago
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like a transition to $500 per square foot

It's the end of the world!

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Response by Riversider
about 14 years ago
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Domestic bonds earn their coupon at best.
Real Estate is plus minus low single digits.
Gold takes a year off.
Large cap quality stocks in the U.S. benefit from flight to safety and are up single digits
Euro debt surprises on the upside
Japan stocks are the star of the year along with some Euro-sovereign debt (at least in 2012)
China is a disaster.

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Response by w67thstreet
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I predict I will make enough predictions for 2012 to be right! About at least one thing.

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Response by switel
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RE sales price will continue to go down. at least 10%

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Response by Brooks2
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A lot of inventory will come to the market in the Spring. Sales will be sparse. Huge price drops will come late summer, fall.

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Response by Riversider
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What will drive this new inventory coming to market? I assume you are speaking of shadow inventory which in many cases stays as such by either being rented out or to remain the primary residence of the owner. In my mind two things make the inventory hit the market. Re owner occupied the impetus would be either rising prices rise or the owner is forced to relocate in search of employment, re units being rented out, it would be again rising prices.
I just don't see a huge amount of inventory hitting the market, other than what would be indicated by current trends, seasonally adjusted for Spring.

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Response by huntersburg
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Excluding ultra-high end:
Sellers/inventory up 10%, buyers/demand flat, price declines average 5%.

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Response by huntersburg
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Oh, and any problems in the Euro Zone ... zero impact on Manhattan RE. On equities, sure. On RE, no.

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Response by huntersburg
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Rents increase 4-6% +/- for long-term tenants (excl. rent reg), and new leases and younger tenants see increases of 10% +/-.

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Response by dealboy
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River, how long have you been long Japan? I've been eyeing EWJ for 2 years.

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Response by Riversider
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Japan is interesting. Good balance sheets and valuations ,but exposure to China is a two edged sword.

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Response by Brooks2
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carry costs high, overleveraged.. capitulation...etc..etc you name it

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Response by w67thstreet
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Riversider thinks ppl have unlimited funds in nyc re owners hands. If by unlimited you mean if they live in a 300sq ft studio and their SS chks are greater than cc, then yes you have unlimited funds.

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Response by kylewest
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Prediction: the truism that markets are cyclical and that the world has not/is not ending becomes apparent.

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Response by Riversider
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I predict that far too many will under-price risk,over estimate returns and fail to predict the annual six sigma market move. Oh and I predict that the majority of those that invest will believe they hold a minority contrarian view.

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