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building at 100 Remsen Street

Started by nyscipio
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 3
Member since: Jul 2010
Hi folks, Does anyone know anything about this building? I understand that it has a land-lease which expires in a few years (three maybe). Is this true, and what happens when it expires?
Response by Brookline
over 13 years ago
Posts: 13
Member since: Apr 2012

I heard it expired in 32 years. I am interested to know what happens also. Apparently, it's not a good situation.

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Response by sigourney
over 13 years ago
Posts: 0
Member since: Jun 2012

Would it be the case that maintenance would increase even more than current amount, in the event lease is renewed for a higher cost? Does anyone know what are the planned upcoming capital improvements that a buyer would have to pay upfront?

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Response by aammhh1
over 13 years ago
Posts: 3
Member since: Jan 2007

you can go to Advanced Management Services on Court St and request to see the lease documentation. i did before i purchased in the building. the terms of the lease are straightforward but i cant remember them exactly.
as for capital irovements, they just replaced all of the windows in the building so that is already included in the monthly maintenance amount. And they are so much more air tight that i never turned on my heat this winter (since all utilities are included in the monthly maintenance, there is a chance that they could reduce it if the cost savings on heat with the new windows is significant).
The situation is not had but you have to understand what you are buying into. these apartments are much less than other comparables in the neighborhood because of the land lease. i ran the numbers and it absolutely made sense for me to buy an apt here.

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Response by jiberger18
over 12 years ago
Posts: 1
Member since: Aug 2008

Per listing agent lease expires in 2043. Good luck, all.

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Response by isaac585
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2013

I dont think the owner plans on releasing the land

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Response by lmo
over 11 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2014

any updates on the lease at 100 remsen? really dig the building - but with 29 years left on the lease, resale is a huge issue.

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Response by Dickens
over 11 years ago
Posts: 104
Member since: Mar 2014

Any updates on the building? Any issues other than potential difficulty selling because of land lease expiration?

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Response by brogers
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 15
Member since: May 2009

The lease here is not merely a simple land lease; it includes the building as well. Buyers therefore own only shares of stock in the corporation which is the tenant on the lease. As stated in the offering plan from 1984, the year the co-op was created, "the Apartment Corporation will not be the owner of the building and the land on which it is situated, but will be the holder of a long-term lease."

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Response by claudiabarritt
almost 11 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2013

The land lease expires in approximately 25 years; that is a problem for people who want a mortgage.
An additional concern is the maintenance being raised to cover the new lease.

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Response by NWT
almost 11 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

Lease ends in 2043. Buyers are still getting share loans, presumably for terms of less than 30 years.

A few years ago the landowner tried to force the co-op into default, saying the windows weren't being maintained, and tried to stymie the co-op's financing for the new windows. http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/fcas/fcas_docs/2010AUG/2300212662010100SCIV.pdf

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Response by NWT
almost 11 years ago
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Last month the co-op sued the landlord. Apparently the landlord wanted to consider capital-improvement assessment as "Additional Income", a percentage of which would be Additional Rent. Another attempt to force the co-op into default, I guess. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=0QaIAndhg9ZwVO0hMr01zA==&system=prod

The ground lease is an exhibit to the case: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=vMDq3booNVNR2AueB_PLUS_4G/A==&system=prod

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Response by Brownstiner123
over 10 years ago
Posts: 3
Member since: Feb 2015

Net do you live in the biulding?

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Response by Dickens
over 5 years ago
Posts: 104
Member since: Mar 2014

Anything new on the land lease situation and the contentious landlord?

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Response by stache
over 5 years ago
Posts: 1292
Member since: Jun 2017

Best to ask a broker that knows the area. I would not buy there.

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