why live in hobo ken?

Yes, you are cool.

you want to be like a typical new yorker and live close to project with decent transportation options, have awful public schools available for the offspring, over paying in rent/mortgage, have bars and restaurants close, and have like minded idiots surrond you. welcome to the NJ yuppie.

Would you rather live in LIC for the same ppsf and pay NYC income tax? Before we diss Hoboken, let's look at the apples-to-apples alternatives. And prime Manhattan is in no way to be compared to Hoboken.

if all you're after is drunken haze and quick lay then hobo is the way to go...over pay out of stupidity not because there's anything decent about that town

public schools are phenomenal in parts of city - can't say that about nj

income taxes lowest in ct

Tell us, oh wise one, where should we be living.

new developments are nice, but are far from center of town. projects nearby

"And prime Manhattan is in no way to be compared to Hoboken."
did u mean?
"And Hoboken is in no way compared to prime Manhattan"

and ken i thought u lived in NoHo or SoHo not HoBo?

no defenders of jersey out there?

"new developments are nice, but are far from center of town. projects nearby"

This statement could also be describing Chelsea west of Eighth Avenue, Lincoln Square area, and Carnegie Hill.

It’s where the first officially recorded baseball game was ever played, way back in 1846. It’s where a factory made the first slide rules in the United States. It’s where On the Waterfront was set, and where that classic, Oscar-winning film was shot.

And, of course, Hoboken, Jersey—all one square mile of it, sitting on the Hudson River across from lower Manhattan—is where Frank Sinatra was born more than 90 years ago, on December 12, 1915.

Frank Sinatra's Junior High Diploma“When I was there, I just wanted to get the hell out,” Sinatra once said of the town where he was born. “It took me a long time to realize how much of it I took with me.”

Of course, much of Sinatra’s Hoboken has disappeared over the years. During the past two decades, Hoboken has become a popular destination for New York professionals looking to take advantage of cheaper real estate off the island of Manhattan. It’s been gentrified, yuppified and trendified, sometimes to the dismay of longtime residents in what used to be a solidly working-class town of immigrants.

But underneath it all, Hoboken is still the town of Sinatra’s birth, the tough, lively town made by its docks and its taverns, transformed by World War I and then subject to a rocky history as shipping companies and industry went elsewhere.

For the young and single of Manhattan who choose o reside there it's a great form of birth control.

Q.Want to come back to my place in Hoboken?
A. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha NO

I believe it's the only form of birth control endorsed by the Catholic Church.

>>"new developments are nice, but are far from center of town. projects nearby"

>>This statement could also be describing Chelsea west of Eighth Avenue, Lincoln Square area, and Carnegie Hill.

but, you needs to takes the PATH or the ferry to get to this grand destination

otherwise, birth of baseball (does Hobo have its own team?) and Sinatra (OK, can't say anything about this) is all to extoll? EVERY corner of this planet has history

hobo's got too many walk ups

jersey's got bad water too

>>For the young and single of Manhattan who choose o reside there it's a great form of birth control.

>>Q.Want to come back to my place in Hoboken?
>>A. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha NO

PRICELESS material

I unfortunately WORK in hoboken though I live in Manhattan.

I will say that for 20-somethings, it is probably a fine place to be -- lots of bars. When I leave my office late on warm summer nights, I always see at least one young 'un puking at the curb outside a bar.

If this is your lifestyle -- and for many people in that age range, it is -- then go to Hoboken.

However if you're a little older, I can't imagine what would draw you there. People say it's a pedestrian town but this is not true. The only walkable area is a few square blocks near the PATH station, and even there, you are more or less under constant threat of being run over by New Jersey drivers, who literally do not know they are supposed to yield to pedestrians at a crosswalk.

The car culture is in full sway in Hoboken, just at it is in the rest of NJ. Plus they are bad drivers. This is the stereotype but it also is true. At least they are very inconsiderate and reckless drivers when it comes to pedestrians.

The other issue is the PATH train, which is terrible on weekends, as has been discussed on SE in other threads.

The PATH lines consolidate on weekends so you have fewer trains running to the city, and this causes the schedule to thin out so that you have to wait double the usual amount of time for the train. Then when it comes it is packed to the gills and makes extra stops along the way, so it is in general a miserable experience on weekends.

I have worked at my current job for 10 years and I have a long commute. I have often toyed with the idea of moving to Hoboken to be near my office, but I always conclude that I would be miserable there.

If the PATH were better, I might be swayed, but I moved to this part of the country in order to enjoy the culture of the city, and I need to be able to get the Manhattan on the weeknends without too much pain or fuss.

So Hoboken won't cut it for me. If you want to enjoy the the city on weekends -- theater, dance, restaurants, etc. -- then don't move to anywhere in NJ, not even the nearest points, because it is very time-consuming and inconvenient to go back and forth on weekends.

I've worked in Hoboken before, too, and I'll be the odd one out -- I like it. It has a cute, quaint, small-town-of-yesterday feel. It's not too built-up, and there are still pockets of old-school immigrants, which take me back to my days growing up in Philly. There are lots of independent stores on and around Washington St., yet the big box stores over in Jersey City (Target, Best Buy, Newport Mall) are just a brisk walk away.

The PATH is very convenient; even on weekends, it runs all night, and there are no extra stops between Hoboken and New York. (Hoboken is the extra stop between New York and Jersey City on weekends.) I can get home (Chelsea) from Hoboken faster than I can from most parts of Brooklyn and even some parts of the Upper West/East.

I'm grateful to be able to afford to live in Mahattan, but if my financial circumstances ever changed, I'd consider living in Hoboken without hesitation.

if you can find a place in the city (there are so many good deals)....don't move to hoboken.

You only live once.

I rented in Hoboken for 4 months. Broke my lease, it was just so inconvenient. The college-pub-drink all night thing wasn't for me (and I was 24 when I lived there).

so....gottabrain likes hoboken, but can't afford it? what an odd thread

GraffitiGrammarian, *snort*. what else is there to say?

gottabrain
about 7 hours ago
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report abuse no defenders of jersey out there?

sure, nj is a fine place to be from, as in past tense.

newport mall- ha ha- that's a draw?

"old school immigrants"? isn't immigrant presence a plus from the diversity it offers - so...are there authentic shops, restaurants i.e. chinatown, little italy, jewish delis, french bistros, paki/indian restaurants we should all know about?

or is hobo gastronomy just cinnabon at the mall (because i need more lard in my gut) and old school is the rundown nabe cleaners at the bottom of a walkup?

alex09 - yeah, my big plan is to badmouth hobo because it's sooooooooooo unattainable

my cab driver can afford that town

i bet it has cooties, too. if it had hair you'd pull it and then call it names.

> newport mall- ha ha- that's a draw?

It was specifically noted for the folks who want big box stores. But the person is right, Hoboken is famous for very little chain action. Lots and lots of independent stoes.

"isn't immigrant presence a plus from the diversity it offers - so...are there authentic shops, restaurants i.e. chinatown, little italy, jewish delis, french bistros, paki/indian restaurants we should all know about?"

yes, and I think thats what lad was posting about.

"or is hobo gastronomy just cinnabon at the mall (because i need more lard in my gut) and old school is the rundown nabe cleaners at the bottom of a walkup?"

no, you just misread the post. its the opposite.

Sinatra may have been born in Hoboken, but his song is "New York, New York" not "Hoboken, Hoboken" or "Hoboken, New Jersey".

you almost had a How I Met Your Mother quote...

somwhereelse - quoting HIMYM? i can play that game: "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT"