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14 Hope Street Williamsburg : 100K price cuts

Started by LookPied
about 16 years ago
Posts: 256
Member since: Mar 2009
New prices just listed with 10-15% cuts. Maintenance is on the high end. Any opinions on this building?
Response by ericho75
about 16 years ago
Posts: 1743
Member since: Feb 2009

Yes, ask for another 20%.

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Response by cfranch
about 16 years ago
Posts: 270
Member since: Feb 2009

still too high for w'burg and not in the nicest part either. agree with eric

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Response by LookPied
about 16 years ago
Posts: 256
Member since: Mar 2009

It has a similar look to 72 Berry which surprisingly has moved very quickly in this market at similar prices. If the interiors have a nice lofty feel I wonder if they may attract as much interest.

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Response by soultasto
about 16 years ago
Posts: 11
Member since: Dec 2008

nothing like 72 Berry except maybe the outside. The inside reminds me more of a Best Western.

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Response by cj2008
about 16 years ago
Posts: 77
Member since: Apr 2008

has anyone gone to the open house recently? i actually like the location and amenities although i agree with Lookpied--maintenance is on the high end.

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Response by LookPied
about 16 years ago
Posts: 256
Member since: Mar 2009

For what it's worth a few comments have been posted in brownstoner.com:

http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2009/05/checking_in_on_59.php#comments

I do agree that the interior photos are not very impressive. I'm planning to visit soon. I'll update.

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Response by jj1918
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 120
Member since: Jul 2009

i actually really liked the layouts and there was a lot of light. location and amenities are also great. the finishes are awful though - really poor quality and really cheaply done. i agree with eric on pricing

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Response by LookPied
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 256
Member since: Mar 2009

Unfortunately after two trips to NYC I have not been able to tour the building. But it seems pricewise it is comparable to 2 recently marketed buildings which seem to be selling well (229 N 8th and 90 N 5th) Both have 6 listings each now in contract. Maintenance is definitely a difference. Maybe quality as well.

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/229-north-8-street-brooklyn
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/90-north-5-street-brooklyn

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Response by cj2008
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 77
Member since: Apr 2008

jj--can you explain exactly what finishes you are referring to? i was interested in checking out some units in this building--i love the location, parking and storage, and roof/terrace availability but i agree the maintenance is on the high end. are you talking about the cabinetry, plumbing, appliances, etc? all of the above (ouch)?!

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 7523
Member since: May 2009

They've got another 60% to go.

I don't care how nice the apartment is, no two-bedroom in that part of Williamsburg is worth more than $200K.

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Response by petrfitz
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 2533
Member since: Mar 2008

the price cuts could be due to the fact that Williamsburg sits on a toxic waste plum, or the machete gangwars in the hood, or the masive amounts of unbuilt capacity or the heroin hobos infesting the area.

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Response by mutombonyc
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2008

14 Hope Street will get another overdue haircut.

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Response by jj1918
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 120
Member since: Jul 2009

yes maintenance is really high and for no reason. there are comparable maintenance costs in other buildings which have a 24-hour doorman, a gym, cold storage etc - this building has none of that so it makes no sense to have such high maintenance costs. As for the finishes - they used really cheap and poor cabinetry in the kitchen - probably wouldn't last more then a year. And the tubs, toilets etc look pretty bad too. And simple details like having a medicine cabinet behind the mirror in the bathroom etc have just been skipped all together. I love the location and would only bid if these places were 200k lower. Where prices stand right now is just insane.

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Response by cj2008
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 77
Member since: Apr 2008

jj--very sad to hear. i really loved the location and the building. i agree with you regarding the maintenance. what is that paying for?! i don't even think there is a gym or a doorman right?

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Response by jj1918
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 120
Member since: Jul 2009

yup - no gym and no doorman. i really love the location too - i think it would be okay if they just reduced the crazy maintenance costs and slashed at least 100k off the prices.

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Response by LookPied
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 256
Member since: Mar 2009

I visited the open house yesterday. I liked the layouts. Surprisingly more open and better ceilings heights the conveyed by their pictures. Great light especially in the south facing apartments. Quality of the cabinets although not the cheapest, aren't the best. Overall quality was good. VERY prominent airconditioning units in each room. You can use them as tables! You do get free bicycle and motorcycle storage but that definitely does not justify the maintenance. I do like the location although Saturday night there was a pretty happening party with a band in the warehouse apartments across the street. Nothing too rowdy and I kind of liked the activity.

Pricewise they are comparable to others on the market now. 25 year abatement is a PLUS. Maintenance is what would hold me back.

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Response by LookPied
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 256
Member since: Mar 2009

I noticed on their flyer:

Common charges include heat, hot water, and cooking gas

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Response by HH11231
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 117
Member since: Aug 2009

Is the 25 year abatement finalized? On their web site it still says pending...

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Response by LookPied
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 256
Member since: Mar 2009

I'm not sure exactly when Tax Abatements are officially in place, but this is not an unusual situation.

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Response by fuzzyjza
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 32
Member since: Jul 2009

Maintenance is too high and personally I don't like the finishes compared to other buildings in the area, but then again asking price is cheaper than some.

I like the location though - its not as nice as the northside, but its still not quite into the sketchiness of the southside yet.

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Response by williamsburger
over 15 years ago
Posts: 27
Member since: Sep 2009

I went to an open house here and someone had thrown a bottle onto the 5th floor, breaking a window. Apparently being next to Hope Lounge is not the nicest location.

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Response by HH11231
over 15 years ago
Posts: 117
Member since: Aug 2009

They must have been a professional quarterback or rightfielder to have hit the top floor and to have broke the window.

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Response by HH11231
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2009

I forgot to ask if they are still offering a free storage space and half off parking and cabanas?

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Response by wisco
over 15 years ago
Posts: 178
Member since: Jan 2009

think amenities are really good around there? nice grocery, lots and lots of shops and restaurants and bars. easy to walk to JMZ or L altho i like walking anyway. can't speak to the units. but find havemeyer around there very pretty.

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Response by williamsburger
over 15 years ago
Posts: 27
Member since: Sep 2009

HH11231, it wouldn't have taken that much to break the window. They are literally the cheapest panes of glass one could buy.

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Response by katbrando
over 15 years ago
Posts: 1
Member since: Dec 2009

considering making an offer tomorrow just deciding between a north facing apartment on a high floor or a south facing apartment on a lower floor, with outdoor space! I personally liked the building, the layouts were the best of what I've seen, and I've checked out about 10 diff condo units in the area. Yes the kitchen is not the best, but I'm not going to be cooking either. It works for me. I don't need a gym, the 5 block walk to the train will be enough. As for psf this one fit my budget best. I fig all renovations can be done at a later time anyway if need be, and then they will be done my way.

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