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Do brokers in NYC buy leads?

Started by UESBandit
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Do any of the brokers here buy RE leads? If so, how much do they cost? What kind of information is included? I know they sell leads for other parts of the country, but I have heard they are very basic and not very good.
Response by NWT
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As in "Glengarry Glen Ross"?

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Response by UESBandit
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I am saying in general.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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No.

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Response by UESBandit
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I have heard some buy "leads" from CityRealty. Any thoughts on that?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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They are stupid?

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Response by UESBandit
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Are you saying there is no value to leads in NYC real estate, or are you questioning the current quality of the leads on the market?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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Yes.

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Response by scoots
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No, they do not - I actually brought this up once here, as a seller who hoped that a listing broker would be able to access past OH attendees to present my apt to them.

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Response by UESBandit
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Ok so the crappy lists that are available arent any good, that makes sense. However, would brokers find value in buying a specific lead (name, email, phone number) of a person interesting in buying the specific property that broker is listing? What if that "lead" even included the price they wanted to pay for it, and the broker could view that price prior to buying the lead?

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Response by NWT
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What's in it for the broker? Why wouldn't she just sit tight and wait for the buyer to come to her? Is the lead-seller somehow preventing the buyer from finding out about the apartment?

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Response by UESBandit
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Thats clearly NOT working right now is why I ask. The broker can sit and wait for the cows to come home, but they wont make a sale. I think that if the broker had the ability to pay to find someone interested in their specific property, that would be a very good thing. It just looks like all the leads on the market are crap, and thats why nobody is using them.

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Response by Squid
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Any person interested in purchasing real estate is easily able to access any listing that would fit his desired specifics. It's easier now than ever, with searchable sites like SE, Trulia, NYTimes, all of which allow users to use keywords to plug in the elements they're looking for.

A broker with a well-described online listing does not NEED to waste time hunting for interested buyers--interested buyers, if they exist, will come to him. And certainly NO ONE--neither buyers nor sellers--would be interested in tacking on extra costs to the transaction for some unnecessary 'lead' from a middleman.

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Response by NWT
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Gee, so maybe the business model for selling yokels their retirement double-wides in Land o' the Ozarks wouldn't work here?

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Response by Squid
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And just think about it for a moment--why would a buyer with specific criteria in mind would provide personal info to YOU, a middleman, in order to get inundated with unsolicited calls from brokers trying to sell him their product?

And how, exactly, would you be able to include 'the price they want to pay for it' unless they'd already SEEN the apartment in question and assessed what they'd be willing to offer? And if they've already seen the apartment, then why do they need YOU, the middleman?? Why not go directly to the listing agent in the first place? Sheesh, my head's starting to swim...

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Response by UESBandit
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I never suggested I was going to provide such a service, nor do I know how it might even be done. A quick internet search shows that RE leads are bought fairly frequently in other markets, so I just wondered if it was done here. Thanks for all the responses.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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"would brokers find value in buying a specific lead (name, email, phone number) of a person interesting in buying the specific property that broker is listing?"

Ok, so I have a buyer who is very likely to buy a $1 million apartment directly from a broker. I sell them the lead for ?$10? rather than co-broker it and collect a $30,000 commission. Who am I?*

* answer: either someone who didn't really have a person who was actually going to buy that listing, or a total moron.

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Response by UESBandit
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As I said before its done in other markets so I was just wondering if its done here. No need to get hostile.....

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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"Real Estate leads" are most commonly bought for things like time-shares, vacant land in some far off location, etc. In other words, circumstances where the sucker.... ummm.... client.... has indicated that they are interested in buying soething which could be somewhat fungible, and where it may be difficult to reach them with advertising because you don't know where they are looking. For example, for timeshares, you might buy leads of people in Omaha if you were selling timeshares in Guatemala because you wouldn't necessarily want to place a print ad in every newspaper in the US.

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