Blown Away by Park Slope

Get in line -- prices are comparable to UWS and the mid-level areas of UES.

Get thee to brownstoner.com! Prices are not comparable - for the same product, it's at least 30% cheaper. I've been a big fan of brownstone Bk for a decade (sadly my partner disagrees).

Which areas are considered prime park slope and be-aware park slope?

And the ethnic eateries in Bk (very accessible from brownstone Bk) are fantastic. Just got back myself from a dimsum in Sunset Park.

Super-prime would be the "name streets" east of 5th - President, etc. The full-service bldgs on PPW. The lower numbered streets up to 10th east of 5th. Obviously the closer you are to the park, the "nicer" - though it's a tradeoff wrt transportation. Parking is an issue, as it's nice to have a car to shop in greater Bk (how would you get to Fway?) Vast swathes of PS are nice - do you just want to know what the super-prime (in terms of price are)?

The prime area in Park Slope is from Union St to 9th Street and from 6th Ave up to the park. That area belongs to one of the best public elementary schools in the city, PS 321.

"Which areas are considered prime park slope and be-aware park slope?"

Prime Park Slope = The area where there are lots of white people

Be-aware Park Slope = The area where there are no white people

(and for all the PC liberals out there, go ahead and flame me, I don't care) I am sick of being PC and from now on, I am going to speak my mind!

wow.

i like the "be-aware park slope". those days are over. the only way you get that area is if you listen to corcoran when they drag you into sunset park and call it prime slope.

alpine, what was the point of that comment? to smear bugelrex, or to get out some pent-up frustration?

alpine hasn't been speaking his mind? this should get interesting.

And what he speaks about his mind says volumes. Apline takes his mind-volume to 11, and I am practically deaf already.

That aside, 10023, my partner is not into brownstones either, so no Park Slope for me.

My only concern is more sensitivity to security living in a brownstone vs apartment. Unless you have a large dog, you are going to be more sensitive sleeping at night.

I have this image of alpine as a giant amplifier, with nigel turning his nose, saying this one goes to 11.

mine would have done the PS brownstone, and we almost did it 1998ish. oh well, regrets are not productive.

I personally love Park Slope (perhaps even more than my old 'hood, Brooklyn Heights), but be aware that moving to Park Slope from Manhattan would be a complete lifestyle change. You have to really want to move your life to Park Slope, because getting into and out of Manhattan will become quite the chore once you move there. And no matter how fabulous the neighborhood or your digs, it will be near-impossible to get your friends to visit you from Manhattan with any regularity.

"Be-aware Park Slope" only if your professional and social life revolves around Manhattan.

See, AR, I just imagine Alpine as Nigel, complete with herpes sore.

That was mean, but I'm not sorry. See? I've learned that regrets are not productive and applied the lesson judiciously.

Brownstones are pretty, but I like doormen and in-building gyms. I think that pretty much negates the brownstone as an option.

Not if you own the entire brownstone, turn the basement into your own gym, and hire a full-time housekeeper who'll be home all day to answer the door for you.

well, evnyc, i've got the worst of both of it. slumming here in PCV, no doorman, no in-building gym. actually, i'm not really the PS sort, so it's all for the best.

i hadn't thought of alpine AS nigel, thought provoking. and good on you for such judicious application of learning. keep up the fine work.

You get a little more space for a little less money, but it's not a bargain. And prices aren't dropping as quickly as they are on the UWS, I assume because it's so much less dense--the slide downward is taking more time to pick up momentum. It sure is pretty, though. Food's not bad.

Matt, when I can afford that, I will be in heaven. Which, FYI, means I will be dead. I'll stick with life in rental buildings for as long as possible before I accept that fate.

AR, I await further instruction. ;)

VMI, pretty is good; doormen are better.

There are doormen buildings on PPW. One of the more memorable floor plans I've seen over the years was a 9-room (?) corner apt on PPW. It was maybe fall 2000, and listed at 995k.

Here it is - Plaza Street West, not PPW. http://img.streeteasy.com/nyc/image/10/2573410.jpg

10023, that is one fabulous floorplan. I dig the triangle shape. Sadly, $995 is in lottery-winning dreamland territory for me. Today I'm sure that would be well above its 2000 price. I'm training for the marathon and don't smoke anything, so unfortunately for me it's not even a pipe dream.

check out CORNER BURGER on 5th ave and 6th street . great burgers/beers!

If you like Park Slope, you will probably like Carroll Gardens, Boreum Hill and Cobble Hill even better, but prices seems to be adapting to the new environment a little better in Park Slope than these areas. That being said, NYCMatt is right, if your social life revolves around Manhattan, this move is probably not wise.

I am so OVER brooklyn. We were looking for places out in PS this winter and half-heartedly CG/BH. What we found in PS were small apartments, poor railroad layouts (most with one crummy "bedroom" with no light that I'd never force my kid to sleep in), a 45 min commute to midtown, no ammenities, and sellers with apparently no idea about market value. The only thing going for it financially are the low taxes. All told, the UWS/UES is a MUCH better value.

At one point we were looking at 2bd/2ba on 86th and CPW that was LESS expensive then a similiarly sized 2bd/2ba in Park Slope...crazy.

Park Slope is amazing and there is no more areas of Park Slope that you should be aware of...
The only thing to be aware of is what people have begun to call Park Slope South, an area that should end at the Prospect Expwy but that has been pushed into as far south as 25 street. Not that this area is dangerous, it just is obviously not associated with Park Slope. Completely different demographic and quality of life.

Park Slope is amazing which is why I bought there after looking for over a year. I looked in CH and BH (CG is def not nicer or a better value) and ultimately got more for my money in Park Slope. The long commute thing totally depends on where you live. If your only option is the F train then yes it's an annoying commute if you work midtown but I take the M, R and transfer for one of the express trains at Atlantic Pacific and it's often 30 minutes door to door to Times Square (as it was this morning). I'd say on average it takes me 35 minutes to and from work which is the same commute that people have who live in CH or BH on the F.

So far as Manhattan being a better value well it depends on your lifestyle choice and the type of people you want to live around. I would have bought downtown or on the UWS if I could have gotten what I got in PS but I ultimately chose Brooklyn over a lot of other areas in Manhattan that I could have gotten deals in. I had no interest in living on the UES (or most of the east side of Manhattan) and a lot of people feel the same way I do.

Oh and Corner Burger rules.

Geez, I go to the beach for a day and miss all the Brooklyn talk!

LP1's experience of crappy apartments that are more expensive than the Upper West Side is not hyperbole - I've seen it happen. But it's a rookie move and avoidable. stealth1 - I don't usually use this forum to promote my services, but this is a case in which a good agent can save you a lot of heartache. I can send you my contact info if you like. I be happy to go through this market with you as exhaustively as you like.

Tina
(Brooklyn broker)

Stealth, you might want to check out... Boston.