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Give me an ETA for $800/sqft average

Started by lajeep405
over 17 years ago
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So I can cancel my Streeteasy membership and come back then.
Response by projects_suck
over 17 years ago
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Response by mjsalisb
over 17 years ago
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Not sure what ps meant but the surprising thing is that $800/sq ft only rolls you back to about Q2 2004 per Miller Samuel data.
The more interesting question is when do we get back to Q1 2003 prices ($600/sq foot)? Credit bubble is generally recognized as beginning right about then.....

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Response by aboutready
over 17 years ago
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interest rate driven bubble starts right around 1998. the possibilities are fascinating. 2000, $600 psf condo, quite a bit less coop. slightly less than Q1 2003.

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Response by bronxboy
over 17 years ago
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You can find $800/sf now in many parts of Manhattan, depending on the type of building and apartment. We should be down to $600/sf in the next year or so.

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Response by lajeep405
over 17 years ago
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nice

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Response by nyc10023
over 17 years ago
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I'm more of an UWS RE hound, but it looks to me that prices have definitely broken the 800/ft barrier so. of 96th esp. on bigger non-luxe apts.

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Response by infogrames
over 17 years ago
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Are all of the people who are solely fixated on price per square foot the type of person who buys low floor, low ceiling, far from subway, estate condition apartments?

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Response by aboutready
over 17 years ago
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no, some of us are real estate historians.

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Response by infogrames
over 17 years ago
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Response by lr10021
over 17 years ago
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I am eliminating new construction, and basing this information on what I have sold and purchased over the last decade or so:

1992-1999: Condos trended slightly higher during this time frame, drom about $250 psf aqverage to $400 psf average.

2000 - 2002: There were fits and starts in this market with Sept 11 taking out a lot of momentum. Condos could be had for $400-650 psf.

2003 - early 2008: Up, up and only up. Low interest rates, citywide improvements creating more and more demand, land values exponentially increasing, and speculative buying and investing drove prices from $650 to over $1000 psf. In 2005 alone prices increased about 20% to $1000 psf. Some periods in 2007 and early 2008, outliers reached $1,100 psf.

March 2008 to current: Prices trend down to 2005 levels. Support has already broken in many cases, bringing us to 2004 levels (around $850 psf). We could see prices trend down to 2003 ($650 psf).

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Response by lr10021
over 17 years ago
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oh, and the above is just for condos. I don't care much for co-ops as they can't be rented out.

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Response by West34
over 17 years ago
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infogrames: how do YOU price real estate, price per doorknob?

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Response by nyc10022
over 17 years ago
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In a couple of years, I think we'll see continue pressure on the medians (even if the market is flattening) because the ratio of co-op to condo sales will return to "normal".

We still have 1-2 years of more inventory hitting the city, but when that is eaten up, and there hasn't been much new development for a while, we'll shift back to co-ops, and the medians will go down some more.

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