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Downwardly Mobile: Living on Less in the City An Upper East Sider Negotiates Job Loss; Discounts on Haircuts, Dental Work

Started by just_fo_debate
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204621904574248033091327704.html Several weeks ago, Rochelle Rachelson walked into a salon near her Upper East Side apartment in New York City and inquired about their cheapest cut. “$63,” came the reply. “Too much,” said Ms. Rachelson. The receptionist came back with a $48 cut from a junior stylist. “That’s still too much,” Ms. Rachelson replied, “I’m... [more]
Response by NYCMatt
over 16 years ago
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"The transition has been harsh for Ms. Rachelson, a 58-year-old woman who once enjoyed daily restaurant meals, weekly manicures, regular shopping trips to Bergdorf’s, and summers in the Hamptons. Ms. Rachelson was never wealthy, but for many years she worked as a project manager with an office-furniture company, living in a rent-stabilized apartment at 80th Street on Manhattan’s upscale Upper East Side. She had a closet full of well-made clothes and more than 100 pairs of shoes."

It's apparently a good thing her landlord was subsidizing her housing. Her lifestyle on $57K was better than most people in this city who are making $157K.

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Response by falcogold1
over 16 years ago
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I'm going to miss her when she leaves the neighborhood.
She sailed that big ship as if stormy weather never happens.
Then, instead of a life boat, she spent her money on snappy uniforms for the crew.
The captain always goes down with the ship.
As my old man would say, "the way you make your bed is how you sleep in it".
You probably think I'm some cold nasty guy with no feelings. I passed on many a prize and opted for long term security. When the moment came I was ready. Luck is the residue of design. Ms.Rachelson lived in a world of miss precieved reality and personal self indulgence. Now she expects the vendors and service persons in her neighborhood to do for her on the cheap because she lost her job (which is bad) and spent the bulk of her life spending like a sailor on shore leave.
Sex in the City is a TV show not a real life style. Even as a kid I knew Will Robinson did not live in space although I did think it was irresponsible of his parents to allow him to wonder off with Dr. Smith, who had pediphile written all over him. But, I digress.........

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Response by patient09
over 16 years ago
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NYCMatt: For the record, her landlord did not subsidize her, I DID, AND SO DID ALL OTHER FOLKS PAYING MARKET RATES!

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Response by NWT
over 16 years ago
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That's OK, the statutory renters are subsidizing our mortgage-interest deductions.

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Response by drdrd
over 16 years ago
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Sadly, this broad still hasn't learned, insisting on her luxuries & spending all she can as if those unemployment checks will last forever. Of course, that's assuming we believe a word of this tale 'cause you can't live like Ivana Trump on 57k, I don't care WHO you are.

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Response by patk14
over 16 years ago
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It really sounds like she did not save one dime for retirement and/or rainy days. Maybe she expected to marry Mr. Big and live happily ever after. How could she sleep at night knowing that she had passed 50 without saving anything unless she expected Social Security to be sufficient to cover her "lifestyle"? Are all the people who did set money aside to pay for their healthcare and retirement expenses supposed to subsidize idiots like her? I guess that is the new America...in any event, she should not be living in a prime area of Manhattan.

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Response by trinityparent
over 16 years ago
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It's easy to make fun of this woman - she's singing the white man's blues - but I feel for her. She's in culture shock. She doesn't think she's insisting on luxuries -- she doesn't know they're luxuries. If you've ever traveled to Europe or Asia, think of the time you first encountered a squat toilet in a nice restaurant.

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Response by Jazzman
over 16 years ago
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I love squat toilets in nice restaurants!!

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Response by evnyc
over 16 years ago
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She's not wrong though, that it would be probably be harder to find a job if she had the tooth pulled, stopped dying and cutting her hair, and so forth. She's trying; I think the larger point being made here is that she wouldn't go back to that lifestyle even if she had the money coming in again. I hope that would be true for most people in a similar predicament, although honestly I think most Americans have really short memories. As soon as the economy bounces back, I'd bet that most would hop right back onto the debt hamster wheel without a second thought.

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Response by streakeasy
over 16 years ago
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Her escapism with luxury goods and services quite didn't do it for her. In fact, the RC apt she kept probably kept her from being responsible. Who wants to continue to take handouts like food-stamps? If I were taking food stamps because I couldn't afford food, I would try to get into a place in my life where I could afford to feed myself. Doesn't this apply to housing?

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Response by NYCMatt
over 16 years ago
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Patient09, you are in fact correct. It's market-rate renters who are in effect subsidizing the rent-stabilized tenants.

And Trinityparent, you just said a mouthful: "It's easy to make fun of this woman - she's singing the white man's blues - but I feel for her. She's in culture shock. She doesn't think she's insisting on luxuries -- she doesn't know they're luxuries."

If I hear one more over-entitled New Yorker whine about being only "Middle Class" on their six-figure income because that's what it takes to live a "middle class" lifestyle in New York, I'm going to scream. The Middle Class does not send their kids to private schools, live in white-glove doorman Manhattan buildings,employ household help, or drive Mercedes-Benzes to their weekend homes in the Hamptons.

Hiring a nanny is a LUXURY. Private school is a LUXURY. Spa days are LUXURIES. Indeed, living in the most expensive borough in the most expensive city in the United States is a L U X U R Y.

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Response by sjbh
over 16 years ago
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When the sh*t storm hits it's time to suck up. Paint your nails, cook your food, brew your coffee, wear 'vintage', clean your pad, spend the weekend in Central Park. Move on. Don't whine in the public venue.

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Response by nyc10023
over 16 years ago
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Of course, the press has to pick the least sympathetic case possible. Financial planning would have helped this woman 20+ years ago. A little late now. Even on a 100k salary and a RS or even "free" housing, I would not have a closet of 100+ pairs of shoes or shop at BG/summer in the Hamptons.

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Response by alanhart
over 16 years ago
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Falco, she won the "miss precieved reality" 2006 crown.

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