Need advice. Young single gay male who live in Manhattand works in Jersey City (this is just for context). Currently: live in The Victory (42nd and 10th) in large studio on high floor with great view. Hell's Kitchen (9th Ave) is close by and fun with many friends and bars, but immediate block surrounding the Victory is unattractive and busy with traffic (entrance to Lincoln Tunnel). Can easily... [more]
Need advice. Young single gay male who live in Manhattand works in Jersey City (this is just for context).
Currently: live in The Victory (42nd and 10th) in large studio on high floor with great view. Hell's Kitchen (9th Ave) is close by and fun with many friends and bars, but immediate block surrounding the Victory is unattractive and busy with traffic (entrance to Lincoln Tunnel). Can easily take ferry from 40th and West Side Highway to work.
Option: to move into true two bedroom in Truffles Tribeca (Desbrosses and West Side Highway) on relatively low floor with a partial water view from from the living room with a fellow gay acquaintance. Neighborhood is chich and not touristy but generally expensive (and with no gay nightlife). Building located in very very north Tribeca (far from gyms, supermarkets, etc so I'm told) but is brand new. Commute would require a 15 minute walk down Greenwich Street and then the path over one stop from World Trade Center.
Of course the big difference is living alone vs with a roommate, but I would still really appreciate people's thoughts/advice on the situation, the locations, and the buildings. Thanks a ton!
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Response by wonderboy
over 16 years ago
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Rent a one bedroom at Truffles Tribeca.
Having a roommate = not good.
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Response by changedropper
over 16 years ago
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Truffles Tribeca is a joke--unless you don't mind ongoing construction--STAY AWAY. You even have to pay for the "ClubPrivee" your 2nd year..
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Response by romary
over 16 years ago
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Unless money is why you are looking for a roommate, stay where you are solo or find a new place solo in HK. Sounds like a nice setup for work and apres work life. The walk to the Path might get old pretty quick come January. Brand new is ok - but convenient it's not.
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Response by polydoa
over 16 years ago
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i agree... stay where you are!
if you are able to move that means your lease is coming up?
why not renegotiate for a discount: 10-20% less is doable, if
you signed on during the last couple of crazy (for prices) years
Why are you thinking about moving? That's a big neighborhood change for no reason - are you looking for a newer building? To get out of Hell's Kitchen? For a cheaper rent?
Truffles Tribeca is in a very dead area (as you mention) although the building itself has kind of a young party vibe - it actually reminds me of some of the Wall Street "dorms" (e.g. 20 Exchange Place). The WTC path is quite a good walk from there - not sure if you're into that, but it's at least a 15 minute walk (I would actually say more like 20-25). The neighborhood is almost all mid 30s - mid 40s - lots of people with kids, restaurants not open past 11 etc., however SoHo and the Village are VERY close and you're probably the same distance to Chelsea as you are now.
Good luck!
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Response by SkinnyNsweet
over 16 years ago
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D: Hi. Interesting question. I'd concur with people above on the location question, but you also mentioned you have friends and everything in HK. If I may, a comment on this perspective of the decision:
Recently, there was a lot of research done about what makes people, in general, happy. (BTW: humans are terrible at predicting what will make us happy.)
One of the biggest "happiness mistakes" that people make is moving to a big or nice home away from their social networks. The reason researchers suspect this is true is that people build or buy these huge homes in new neighborhoods as they make more money and envision all their friends coming over to visit at what they envision to be fabulous parties. However, when it comes time to visit, no one does because they are so far away or hard to get to -- and the social networks evaporate, with people more likely to be isolated. I know you aren't "building" a home or moving to the suburbs, but you are contemplating something similar -- moving away from your current social networks in search of a nicer home.
On the flip side, one thing that makes people consistently happier in this research is building and strengthening social networks. So, I'd ask yourself how this will affect your friendships, etc. (Of course, if your real motivation is that you want to scam on all the married boys in Tribeca, that's a different story, though, right?)
Of course, your mileage may vary -- the error and noise in the data in this research is very high, so you could easily wind up being much better off at Truffles. You're young, and a move like this could, in fact, expand your networks. It is just something to keep in mind that most people minimize in their decision making, as their judgement is clouded in a haze of granite countertops and stainless steel appliances that will never go out dancing with you.
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Response by polydoa
over 16 years ago
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also, don't underestimate how you are going to get along with this "fellow gay acquaintance."
if you don't know them very well, could it turn ugly?
and i don't mean just sexually, although that is something to consider as well.
do you know if you are going to get along with him? do you have similar interests and lifestyles?
what if he starts having parties all the time and after a while you need your piece and quiet?
maybe he is pushing you into taking this deal because he wants this "fab" apt in tribeca?
p.s. unless he is really hot, in which case drop everything (pun intended) and go live with him!
(joking of course... kinda!)
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Response by polydoa
over 16 years ago
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sorry, i meant "peace" not "piece," although you could need that as well...
(ugh! sorry about all these double entendres: it's just that it's friday
and i am itching to get outta here already)
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Response by dspelman
over 16 years ago
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Thanks for all your comments. The roommate would likely work out well - we went to the same school, have similar lifestyles, and mutual friends think it's a good pairing... I just wish 10th ave and 42nd st (current location) was cuter and had a little more life to it!
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Response by dspelman
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Oh and sorry for my spelling errors above! I couldn't figure out how to un-post to correct them.
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Response by cleanslate
over 16 years ago
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"One of the biggest "happiness mistakes" that people make is moving to a big or nice home away from their social networks. The reason researchers suspect this is true is that people build or buy these huge homes in new neighborhoods as they make more money and envision all their friends coming over to visit at what they envision to be fabulous parties. However, when it comes time to visit, no one does because they are so far away or hard to get to -- and the social networks evaporate, with people more likely to be isolated. "
This is a little bit extreme, I think. It's so much easier to meet up in Manhattan. :) He's not moving to upstate New York now.
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Rent a one bedroom at Truffles Tribeca.
Having a roommate = not good.
Truffles Tribeca is a joke--unless you don't mind ongoing construction--STAY AWAY. You even have to pay for the "ClubPrivee" your 2nd year..
Unless money is why you are looking for a roommate, stay where you are solo or find a new place solo in HK. Sounds like a nice setup for work and apres work life. The walk to the Path might get old pretty quick come January. Brand new is ok - but convenient it's not.
i agree... stay where you are!
if you are able to move that means your lease is coming up?
why not renegotiate for a discount: 10-20% less is doable, if
you signed on during the last couple of crazy (for prices) years
Check out our thoughts on Truffles Tribeca here:
http://downtowny.blogspot.com/2009/06/truffles-tribeca.html
Why are you thinking about moving? That's a big neighborhood change for no reason - are you looking for a newer building? To get out of Hell's Kitchen? For a cheaper rent?
Truffles Tribeca is in a very dead area (as you mention) although the building itself has kind of a young party vibe - it actually reminds me of some of the Wall Street "dorms" (e.g. 20 Exchange Place). The WTC path is quite a good walk from there - not sure if you're into that, but it's at least a 15 minute walk (I would actually say more like 20-25). The neighborhood is almost all mid 30s - mid 40s - lots of people with kids, restaurants not open past 11 etc., however SoHo and the Village are VERY close and you're probably the same distance to Chelsea as you are now.
Good luck!
D: Hi. Interesting question. I'd concur with people above on the location question, but you also mentioned you have friends and everything in HK. If I may, a comment on this perspective of the decision:
Recently, there was a lot of research done about what makes people, in general, happy. (BTW: humans are terrible at predicting what will make us happy.)
One of the biggest "happiness mistakes" that people make is moving to a big or nice home away from their social networks. The reason researchers suspect this is true is that people build or buy these huge homes in new neighborhoods as they make more money and envision all their friends coming over to visit at what they envision to be fabulous parties. However, when it comes time to visit, no one does because they are so far away or hard to get to -- and the social networks evaporate, with people more likely to be isolated. I know you aren't "building" a home or moving to the suburbs, but you are contemplating something similar -- moving away from your current social networks in search of a nicer home.
On the flip side, one thing that makes people consistently happier in this research is building and strengthening social networks. So, I'd ask yourself how this will affect your friendships, etc. (Of course, if your real motivation is that you want to scam on all the married boys in Tribeca, that's a different story, though, right?)
Of course, your mileage may vary -- the error and noise in the data in this research is very high, so you could easily wind up being much better off at Truffles. You're young, and a move like this could, in fact, expand your networks. It is just something to keep in mind that most people minimize in their decision making, as their judgement is clouded in a haze of granite countertops and stainless steel appliances that will never go out dancing with you.
also, don't underestimate how you are going to get along with this "fellow gay acquaintance."
if you don't know them very well, could it turn ugly?
and i don't mean just sexually, although that is something to consider as well.
do you know if you are going to get along with him? do you have similar interests and lifestyles?
what if he starts having parties all the time and after a while you need your piece and quiet?
maybe he is pushing you into taking this deal because he wants this "fab" apt in tribeca?
p.s. unless he is really hot, in which case drop everything (pun intended) and go live with him!
(joking of course... kinda!)
sorry, i meant "peace" not "piece," although you could need that as well...
(ugh! sorry about all these double entendres: it's just that it's friday
and i am itching to get outta here already)
Thanks for all your comments. The roommate would likely work out well - we went to the same school, have similar lifestyles, and mutual friends think it's a good pairing... I just wish 10th ave and 42nd st (current location) was cuter and had a little more life to it!
Oh and sorry for my spelling errors above! I couldn't figure out how to un-post to correct them.
"One of the biggest "happiness mistakes" that people make is moving to a big or nice home away from their social networks. The reason researchers suspect this is true is that people build or buy these huge homes in new neighborhoods as they make more money and envision all their friends coming over to visit at what they envision to be fabulous parties. However, when it comes time to visit, no one does because they are so far away or hard to get to -- and the social networks evaporate, with people more likely to be isolated. "
This is a little bit extreme, I think. It's so much easier to meet up in Manhattan. :) He's not moving to upstate New York now.