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U.S. Apartment Vacancies Hit 23-Year High of 7.8%, Reis Says

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By Hui-yong Yu Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. apartment vacancies rose to 7.8 percent in the third quarter, the highest since 1986, as rising unemployment reduced rental demand, Reis Inc. said. Actual rents paid by tenants, known as effective rents, declined 2.7 percent from a year earlier, the New York-based property research firm said in a report today. Asking rents, or what landlords sought, fell... [more]
Response by modern
over 16 years ago
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The next survey in NYC is 2011 (it is done every 3 years), if it hits 5% then, goodbye to rent stabilization.

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Response by notadmin
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"if it hits 5% then, goodbye to rent stabilization."

you mean you will rent at mkt rate instead of keep on renting a stabilized unit? or that the city will scale down the program (not adding more stabilized units i guess, they cannot get rid of those already stabilized)?

do you know how common is for rent stabilized tenants to sublet to others at market rate? while say, living outside the city?

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Response by alanhart
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admin, you remember how the beautiful coach turns back into a pumpkin at midnight? And the liveried footmen turn into mice? Like that.

But the chance of > 5% is < 0%. [I failed Statistics 101.]

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Response by modern
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Yeah, you must have failed statistics to conclude the chance is less than 0%.

In 2008 the vacancy rate was 2.9% at the height of the housing boom, since then tens of thousands if new units are hitting the market, jobs have been lost, etc.

Who knows by 2011 when the survey is done but there is defintely some chance it hit 5%.

Note to admin: it goes away, all 1 million stabilized apartments go to free market. Wouldn't that be something.

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Response by samadams
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I would say the chance of vacancy going higher then 5 percent is very high actually. Overpriced rentals job losses tens of thousands of new inventory= shit storm

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Response by apt23
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Who doesn't know someone who is renting out rent stab apts? Both of the friends that I know of are in CA. So watch rent stab apts go to free market and the CA economy tanks even more. Ha.

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Response by notadmin
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"Who doesn't know someone who is renting out rent stab apts? "

if i do, they didn't tell me. that's why i asked how common is it. guess it's not such a difficult thing to control if the city wants to.

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Response by apt23
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the city doesn't have the money to go track down the paperwork to prove it. that is why it is common.

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Response by NWT
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It's up to the landlord, with a bunch of state regulations. The RS tenant can sublet under some conditions and per certain periods, and not for whatever amount they want. Landlords are pretty vigilant in monitoring occupancy and getting non-resident tenants out.

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