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Best way to find old-style loft in Wburg?

Started by LoftyDreams
almost 17 years ago
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I'd love to find an unrenovated big old industrial loft in Northside Williamsburg. The developers who get hold of these buildings make them so slick, take the oil-stains and patches out of the floors, sheetrock the ceilings, etc. I drooled over 330 Wythe but it's just too far from the subway. How to find a place in an unfinished state???
Response by drdrd
almost 17 years ago
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Walk the streets; talk to everyone; hang in the 'hood & see what you can find.

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Response by alanhart
almost 17 years ago
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time travel

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Response by bjw2103
almost 17 years ago
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Despite alanhart's most effective solution (I think it also solves a bunch of other quandaries), you'll likely have to look a bit off the beaten path. I don't think 330 Wythe is that much of a hike from the trains, but if that's your case, I'm thinking there really isn't much around Bedford for you. There is that lovely loft building on North 9th and Driggs, but those are hard to come by. I think you'll have more luck on the southside or if you can somehow track down owners of some of the truly industrial buildings on the northern stretches of Wythe. I don't think there's much there otherwise. Have you looked at anything closer to (gasp) Bushwick? Not sure what the interiors at 184 Kent (rental) will be, but there's potential there if you can get past the probably slickness you mentioned.

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Response by LoftyDreams
almost 17 years ago
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I love the one-story garages etc -- is it a red tape nightmare to turn one into a residence? Different tax base etc?

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Response by modern
almost 17 years ago
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This is my dream building (except I am too old for Williamsburg, sadly). $333/sg ft is a steal.

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/413193-multi-333-kent-avenue-williamsburg-brooklyn

15,000 sq ft! I'd live on the top 5,000, turn the first floor into an alternative performance space, and use the basement for a recording studio.

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Response by LoftyDreams
almost 17 years ago
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I see what you mean! I think you should do it... How'd you like to sell off 2000 sf on the second floor at the back?

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Response by ph41
almost 17 years ago
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Modern - shouldn't that be on the price cutters thread - from $12MM to $4.995MM?

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Response by nyc10023
almost 17 years ago
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I like that listing. You think 333/sqft is a steal - I have a feeling that this will sell closer to 2m.

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Response by bjw2103
almost 17 years ago
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If anyone's interested in these things, check out 89 Grand St. Remarkable building (listing has no info unfortunately).

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Response by LoftyDreams
almost 17 years ago
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For 2 m, I'll split it with you, modern! You're never too old to have fun!

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Response by modern
almost 17 years ago
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I don't want to do the W'burg beard thing and I don't have any flannel shirts...seriously, I go to a lot of places where I am on the older side and it does not bother me but only in Williamsburg does it seem so oddly uniform age-wise. Kind of like the preppies on the UES in the 80s except it is the hipsters in W'burg in the 00s. I think there were so few residents there 20 years ago they haven't had time to grow old yet...

Maybe I can put the performance space in the basement and sell you part of the first floor. I get the garage, though.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 17 years ago
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Why don't you ask the same question on brownstoner.com? Those folks are more Bk-centric than this board.

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Response by LoftyDreams
almost 17 years ago
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Modern - hold that thought. Williamsburg is filling up with empty nesters, who are tired of being the mom and the dad.

nyc - thanks, good idea. I will.

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Response by modern
almost 17 years ago
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Found some pics of 89 Grand, the third floor is great:

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/315827-multi-89-grand-street-williamsburg-brooklyn

What I really really want is Beethoven Hall just off the Bowery, if it ever comes up for sale again. I'll even pay a broker's fee for it! :-)

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Response by glamma
almost 17 years ago
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if you guys split it, i would happily volunteer to throw parties there, 50% to the house! also, isn't it weird that the address is 333 and the sq ft is 333

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Response by glamma
almost 17 years ago
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duh 89...

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Response by glamma
almost 17 years ago
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lofty - party as hard as you can on saturday?

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Response by jimstreeteasy
almost 17 years ago
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to be consistent, shouldnt people say ,' you are nuts to think of buying now"....the lofty market , whatever it is, will go down in tandem with those big towers, one would think

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Response by LoftyDreams
almost 17 years ago
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There are only a couple of really cool loft buildings that I know of: Mill Building, Esquire Building a 15 minute walk from subway), Gretch Building (love the building, hate the location), 55 Berry (waiting for something on a higher floor in the F line) .. Are there others I'm missing? Rocket factory a sad, chopped-up rental and too noisy.

Occasionally something comes up in the Mill but awfully overpriced, and I'd have to undo their reno.
this one is asking $740psf http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/440897-condo-85-north-3rd-street-williamsburg-brooklyn
this one is $686psf on the second floor in the back http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/468967-condo-85-101-north-3rd-street-williamsburg-brooklyn
This one is delightful but too small for me - also $660 psf http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/464997-85-north-3rd-street-williamsburg-brooklyn

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Response by williamsburger
almost 17 years ago
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1361 square feet is too small for you? Maybe you should try squatting in an unfinished building if you want more space than that.

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Response by LoftyDreams
almost 17 years ago
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It's not too small -- it's long and narrow, with a windowless bedroom at the dark end, and no obvious way to make an office/study with any light. If the bedroom were at the window end, I'd have bought it.

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