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Started by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009
Discussion about
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/blog/diagnosis/rahm-emanuel-vs-obamacare Obamacare is predicated on the assumption that the federal government has the knowledge, capacity, and will to drive greater efficiency in American health care. Inadvertently, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has become an articulate spokesman for why that assumption is dead wrong. For months, the president and his team... [more]
Response by LICComment
about 16 years ago
Posts: 3610
Member since: Dec 2007

Who really thinks Obama wants health care reform in order to bring down costs? He wants it to increase government power and control.

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
Posts: 13572
Member since: Apr 2009

Agree reducing costs was not really a priority, Disagree his motive is to increase government power and control. The point was really about increasing number of people insured. On this last point, Obama is correct. The cost control argument is false it won't happen, at least under the current ideas.

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Response by bjw2103
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2007

Wow, this "article" is full of misinformation and misleading. Medicare has been implementing P4P measures since 2005 and continues to do so. No cost-cutting in government health care? What a joke. Tell that to people with private insurance seeing their premiums go up 10% every year.

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Response by Ubottom
about 16 years ago
Posts: 740
Member since: Apr 2009

check the source--it's the typical partisan spun political garbage that redbaiter posts constantly on this real estate site--he has toned down the anti-socialist, death panel, tea party crap of recent for whatever reason--i stopped reading his crap ages ago--i mean i could post clips from huffpost etc all day, but that would be equally painful for those here to post about real estate--ive encourraged him to go to the fox blog or that of hannity, but he keeps em coming

he's got a big investment in constantly ramming his shlt through here

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Response by Ubottom
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

oh and licc has stopped trying to argue that his folly investment in lic---he's onto politics now too

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Response by stevejhx
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2008

Actually, government-run healthcare systems are the most efficient ones in the world. If insurance were still a mutualistic enterprise as in the olden days it would work, but being run for the benefit of shareholders distorts the market & makes some people uninsurable. Therefore, the government now has to insure them through very expensive ways such as emergency rooms. The current system pays physicians for each procedure performed, and neither the doctor nor the patient knows the exact cost of that procedure. It is the worst designed economic system in the world.

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
Posts: 13572
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People like Steve Forbes would point to lasik & cosmetic surgery as examples of procedures which are privately payed for and ones that had large drops in price. Can't see how gov't controlling the doling out of money would be pro-competition and lower prices. If anything it's bound to breed collusion

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Actually, government-run healthcare systems are the most efficient ones in the world

When one recalls million dollar hammers and gov't pork spending, that's very hard to believe.

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