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Hedging against a weakening dollar

Started by Tils
about 16 years ago
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Hypothetical question: You've got $1M cash sitting the bank. Where do you put it? In equities and risk another bumpy ride downward? Real estate and risk further declines? Gold at peak prices? Art/antiques? If you'd asked me two years ago, I would have said put the bulk in real estate, add some healthy stock positions and toss in a few pieces of high-end art to round things out. Now, with the RE market in free-fall, the stock market hiccuping and burping hither and yon, I wonder whether art and antiques (which have taken a beating at auction of late) might not be the way to go, investment-wise. Buy 'em cheap and hold. Of course, first I need to make that $1 million... So, where are all you high-rolling RE side-liners stashing your cash these days? Inquiring minds want to know.
Response by Tils
about 16 years ago
Posts: 18
Member since: Dec 2008

sitting IN the bank...

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Response by bhh
about 16 years ago
Posts: 120
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I have roughly 25% of our liquid reserves in a basket of foreign currencies, EUR, CAD, GBP, NZD, AUD. This was done through my brokerage using the FOREX market for exchange rates (pay only bid/ask spread) and the foreign currencies sit in a money market account. I spoke to Chase about this but they unable to provide this service. I have had the foreign currencies for about 6 months now and may begin to rotate scale out as I am getting a little worried about a dollar rally here.

I trade the equity markets pretty aggressively with roughly 25% of our capital.

We currently have about 50% sitting in USD at Chase.

We own no NYC real-estate.

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Response by truthskr10
about 16 years ago
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More than that and sitting in the bank. I'll continue living with the paltry interest rates, happy not to lose any money.
A lot of it will go into real estate when I find the right apt. The market(sales) is still wrong.

But a formula my dad told me a long time ago is so wise and it's kept me safe. A third a third a third.
A third in real estate, a third in your business (or stocks) a third liquid. You can hedge along 5 to 10% with market conditions but don't stray too far.

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Response by nyc10023
about 16 years ago
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I've been worried about this very thing for years. Meant to go long earlier this year Eur/Cdn when the dollar rallied but didn't come to my preset "sell USD" point. Now, it looks like I've missed the boat. On the other hand, the stock mkt seem to be inversely correlated with the USD. If the stock market tanks again, could be another rally in the USD.

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Response by bhh
about 16 years ago
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Precisely. I am fearful that a technical rally in the dollar here would crush the equity markets. Short USD is getting very crowded and carry trades never end well. Some suggest this could continue for years however.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/11/12/2009-11-12T193219Z_01_N12318790_RTRIDST_0_MARKETS-FOREX-CARRYTRADES-ANALYSIS.html

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Response by positivecarry
about 16 years ago
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Stick to commodity currencies (CAD, AUD)

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Response by marco_m
about 16 years ago
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metro cards baby

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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a million dollars can buy a lot of chef boyardee. sit tight

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Response by nyc10023
about 16 years ago
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Agree, +vecarry.

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Response by positivecarry
about 16 years ago
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There are plenty of currency ETF's out there. Stick to AUD or CAD and only buy on pullback. Every now and then dollar strength shows it's head. Buy then.

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Response by gaongaon
about 16 years ago
Posts: 282
Member since: Feb 2009

marco_m, perfect. Do they come in million dollar demoninations? I need a few.

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Response by Jazzman
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2009

I'm short the Dow, short oil and long natural gas.

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Response by glamma
about 16 years ago
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anyone care to recommend any alternative energy stocks

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Response by modern
about 16 years ago
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QTWW and BYDDF (not alt energy per se, alt car energy). Quantum owns a chunk of Fisker and Buffet owns a chunk of BYD.

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