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Why are people like this allowed on airplanes without extreme security?

Started by reallypissed
about 16 years ago
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we need to split security into 3 categories 1, American born to American citizen parents, with verifiable records (eg employment or school, local residence verification) going back 10 years 2, People with 10 years record in the U.S. or in a European or primary Asian country, verifiable by similar type records and previously entered the U.S. 3, Everyone else #3 gets personal pat-downs and hand inspection of luggage. Visas to the U.S. are for 30 days maximum and must be applied for significantly in advance. Should be charged $100 extra per flight segment to cover the costs. #2 gets stepped up security and tickets for U.S. travel must be purchased a minimum 10 days in advance. #1 gets normal security
Response by sisyphus
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2009

I'm not sure the 10 years record in the US makes a difference. That young American who joined Al Quaeda certainly lived in the US 10 years.

I wonder why they don't have people go back through security again for different legs of their journeys. For instance, this guy flew Nigeria to Amsterdam. If he had gone through security again in Amsterdam maybe they would have looked at him more closely. The chance of finding someone should go up with repeated security checks.

Also, this concern with "profiling" needs to go. Why does my 86-year-old mother-in-law get patted down in the airport and this guy sails through?

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Response by NYCMatt
about 16 years ago
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"Also, this concern with "profiling" needs to go. Why does my 86-year-old mother-in-law get patted down in the airport and this guy sails through?"

Because anything else would be R A C I S T.

It's much better to let that scary looking Arab guy through, while patting down the 86-year-old Irish Catholic nun, because otherwise we wouldn't be politically correct.

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Response by Hugh_G
about 16 years ago
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Again, I find myself in the awkward position of agreeing with the ladyboy. Matt is exactly right - this nonsense about not "profiling" is why we are at such risk. I still remember one holiday when my wife's elderly grandmother was selected for a random search, but plenty of swarthy young men were not. The Israeli's do the complete opposite: they profile the hell out of people. And interview them. And generally sniff out those with malicious intent. When was the last time El-Al had a security breach?

Now, what are chances that Obammy, who noted that the police "acted stupidly" for daring to question a black man breaking into a house, will submit to more racial profiling...yeah, that's what I thought. Better get used to risking death in the name of forced equality...

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Response by alanhart
about 16 years ago
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Why are dogs allowed in airplane cabins? I can understand putting them in the cargo holds, but really!

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Also, this concern with "profiling" needs to go. Why does my 86-year-old mother-in-law get patted down in the airport and this guy sails through?"

Because anything else would be R A C I S T.

It's much better to let that scary looking Arab guy through, while patting down the 86-year-old Irish Catholic nun, because otherwise we wouldn't be politically correct

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Seems to me that profiling passengers before they board a plane and denying someone admissions to college due to race are not the same thing. While the word profiliing has been deemed politically incorrect sounds like what many consider good police work. Guys in power need to figure this one out. There has to be a solution where we don't spend too much time patting down the 86 year old Catholic nun and more time on probable terrorists.

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Response by Riversider
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Response by reallypissed
about 16 years ago
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Originally this discussion was deleted after it was taken over but now seems to be more tame. Actually the first half dozen plus posters were in agreement until some nuts came on.
Someone else tossed out the race card. And a few through out "right wing" labels as if these people are better than us because they operate homeless shelters in their apartments and stand on the beaches of Florida during their vacations pulling in Hatians who fell off rafts. I said nothing about race (or about political affiliation). In fact, most blacks in this country would fall into category 1 along with most whites. This is about citizenship and origin, people who are pro-U.S. generally vs people who may hate us. We have to protect ourselves and although there are and will be imperfections like McVeigh who was domestic and even in the Army beforehand, we need now lower standards domestically but much higher standards for foreigners especially from non-European and primary Asian countries (Japan, Australia, etc).

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Response by reallypissed
about 16 years ago
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, we need NOT lower standards domestically

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Response by rangersfan
about 16 years ago
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reallypissed. remember, although most of what you say actually may be logical, you are navigating rough waters by posting on a nyc thread about re. you might do just as well throwing a meaty chicken into the fox den.

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Response by beam
about 16 years ago
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Member since: May 2009

If you're going to start a discussion that has nothing to do whatsoever with real estate, could you please at least post it under the "anything" category, rather than sales? Thanks.

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