Pot Heads

maybe its for medicinal reasons

Is the problem that the smell is in the bedroom and you rather it be in the living room where the PS3 is?

would you really narc on your neighbor? boooooooo

You could always tell the management that it's cigarette smoke -- they may be able to seal up gaps in the walls or something to keep the smell out. I wouldn't mention that the tobaccy happens to be wacky.

I doubt you're the first person in the city with this problem, but at the same time it's not one I've ever come across personally. So I'd say it's probably not all THAT common -- and not common enough to have to chalk it up to life in the city. You wouldn't be out of line to try to figure out how to keep the smoke in your neighbor's apartment and out of yours.

Inhale and enjoy it!

I understand this is your first city pot experience hofo. Can I call you hofo?

OK hofo, first, it's very important not to panic, focus on my voice and listen very carefully to what I'm about to say. Now go to the kitchen and collect food, it doesn't matter what it is just get lots of it, you're going to start getting very hungry. Next lock the door, you don't want any interruptions. Do you have cable hofo? Good. Now turn the TV to the Cartoon Network, I want you to stay on the sofa for at least 1/2 a day. If you've been exposed to BC Hydro Skunk just get the food close and avoid any unnecessary movement. Whatever you do don't answer the phone you'll be OK in about 5 hrs. Post again if you need more food.

Why don't you just mention it to your neighbor? Why does everyone want to run to management before trying to work things out with the actual neighbor first?

NYRENewbie. Going to management is the best idea. Neighbors can be funny, sometimes they retaliate. And it's not necessary for them to know who raised the complaint.

Spinnaker, I knew that sounded familiar!

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Peter (on phone): Hello? Hello?

President Jimmy Carter: Yes. Hello, Peter?

Peter (on phone): Is this the President?

President Jimmy Carter: Yes, it is.

Walter Cronkite: Do you have a question for the President?

Peter (on phone): Uh.. I, uh.. I took some acid.. I'm afraid to leave my apartment, and I can't wear any clothes.. and the ceiling is dripping, and uh.. I, uh..

Walter Cronkite: Well, thank you very much for calling, sir..

President Jimmy Carter: Just a minute, Walter, this guy's in trouble. I think I better try to talk him down. Peter?

Peter (on phone): Yeah..?

President Jimmy Carter: Peter, what did the acid look like?

Peter (on phone): They were these little orange pills.

President Jimmy Carter: Were they barrel shaped?

Peter (on phone): Uh.. yes.

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Peter (on phone): Very good of you to know that, sir.

President Jimmy Carter: How long ago did you take it, Peter?

Peter (on phone): Uh.. I don't know. I can't read my watch.

President Jimmy Carter: Alright, Peter, just listen. Everything is going to be fine. You're very high right now. You will probably be that way for about five more hours. Try taking some vitamin B complex, vitamin C complex.. if you have a beer, go ahead and drink it..

Peter (on phone): Okay..

President Jimmy Carter: Just remember you're a living organism on this planet, and you're very safe. You've just taken a heavy drug. Relax, stay inside and listen to some music, Okay? Do you have any Allman Brothers?

Peter (on phone): Yes, I do, sir. Everything is okay, huh Jimmy?

President Jimmy Carter: It sure is, Peter. You know, I'm against drug use myself, but I'm not going to lay that on you right now. Just mellow out the best you can, okay?

Peter (on phone): Okay..!

President Jimmy Carter: Okay.

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President Jimmy Carter: I figure there's no harm in trying, Walt. The tickets are only a dollar, and maybe someone out there will win an all-expense paid trip to spend the night here with us in Washington. Good night!

Walter Cronkite: Good night, thank you very much.

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Riversider - exactly what I was looking for but couldn't find.

Your advice about pot, the munches and cartoon network vs orange sunshine and the Allmon brothers.

Riversider, I hear what you are saying, but won't they know anyway that it is the next door neighbor who is complaining because the smoke is coming into his/her bedroom?

No.
The complaint could come from anywhere. Someone in the hall, any of the neighboring units or even an apartment that shares ventilation shaft. The managing agent should have experience in handling this.

hofo: Sorry, I will try to cut it back to 2-3 times per week. Is that fair?

hofo,
Whirlpool makes an excellent air purification filter system that can be purchased for under $200. It will need about $140 in replacement filters after the first year. Not only will it eliminate the smell of smoldering cannabis but it will remove many more harmful and odiferous hazards that lurk amongst the air you breath. Your stoner neighbor is throwing off quite a smell but, imagine what he or she might be throwing off without the presence of a strong central nervous system depressant. The Marijuana reform act of 1977 most likely prevents you from doing much about it legally. Leave an anonymous note for you neighbor that the smell is killing you and that they might, out of respect for their neighbors, consider filtering their own air. If that doesn't get you anywhere, get a recipe for sauerkraut and start cooking lot's of it. If your pothead neighbor's name is anything other that Otto they will be at your door to make a deal. There are things that smell a lot worse than pot.

Am I naive to think maybe hofo can just knock on his/her neighbor's door and ask if he/she could smoke elsewhere in the apt, if possible? maybe bring a plate of homebaked cookies to show good will?

I have a friend whose neighbor is a chain smoker and the smoke seeps into my friend's apt. She has 2 kids who have severe asthma and often triggered by smoke. I think potsmoker can try to smoke in another room with window open or something.

Of course, hofo can buy an air purifier and find methods of coping, too, but I don't know. I'd just try a nice smile and a plead before taking it upstairs to the authorities first.

nothing that a polite smile and a plate of cookies can't fix.

well, there not going to break a opiate addition although the cookies will be nicely timed to the ever present munchies. You got a neighbor with a heavy duty canibanoid issue. Trust your good friend falco...$200 and getting used to the slight noise of an air purification system is all it will take to solve your situation. Anti-up and move on with your life.
The Dead Head next door and his addition isn't going anywhere. (ever try to motivate a pot head?)

Good luck with those cookies. Wouldn't it be funny to knock on the door and find out it's the Cookie Monster from Seseme Street? I always suspected that the Cookie Monster was a toker.

Are you suddenly feeling very, very hungry?

falco: Is the use of "addition", instead of "addiction", a hint as to what you may start adding to your life?

A Related super posted a really helpful rundown this weekend of all the physical measures he takes to resolve a secondhand smoke complaint, like putting a piece of charcoal filter in all exhaust/fresh air supply grills; spraying foam insulation in various nooks and crannies; caulking etc. (To read the whole thing, scroll to the bottom of http://www.brickunderground.com/forum/my_building/neighbor_relations/neighbor_who_smokes)

Also, make sure your front door is properly weather-stripped to help keep fumes from flowing from the foyer into your apartment, if that is part of your problem.

You might also check out this thread on metafilter: http://ask.metafilter.com/143013/My-wonderful-apartment-smells-like-smoke

Good luck,

Teri
www.brickunderground.com

Easy:
http://www.allpotseeds.com/pot-brownies.html

Somebody in my old building had the same problem with a neighbor (she was pregnant and the neighbors were smoking almost every night). She complained to the management company and the management company forced the pot-smokers to move out. I have no issue with people smoking pot, but to do it 4-5 times a week in your apartment so that it bothers the neighbors is just rude. Step outside or someplace away from other apartments already.

I find these answers really quite outrageous. Ho-Ho came to us because he's feeling bad about a serious problem, and good sound counsel is warranted.

Ho-Ho, you're not alone in your frustration. Decorum has been breaking down in our society since about 1980 -- 30 years now. You're a bit older, so you have a sense of decency, of consideration, common courtesy. Not everyone is like that. You are also polite enough not to present someone else's inappropriate behavior to him, because you understand that that in itself is a rude act, and you're above that. Unfortunately, the correct advice is that in a case like this, you need to swallow your pride, put away your good upbringing, and just go to the neighbor's door and tell him that he's fully expected to pass the bong to you, because it's like totally uncool to hog it when there are other righteous dudes within noseshot of it.

Grass grass and grass, nobody rides for free.

Maybe if you were in a rental, the management could force the smokers to quit or leave.

But you're in a condo. I smoked pot in my condo for 10 years, and got all sorts of complaints. At most the management just sent a letter suggesting I smoke with the window open. Which I did. But every now and then I got another letter. Especially in the winter. When it's below freezing, smoking out the window is miserable. I tried to be accommodating but let's face it, why shouldn't you be able to smoke in the comfort of your own home?

Wonder what warranty of habitability says here. Could the management agent or pot smoker get sued?

Vaporize.

hofo is hfs

smoke'm if ya got'm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Qwg5x7kc8&feature=related

Riversider: No. The warranty is for situations where you are forced to move out. If you don't move, it won't hold up in court.

Better pot smoke, than cigar smoke (unless you like cigars).

They could always crack open a window, and so can you. It should help.

Will cops actually take time to come look into a complaint about weed smoke?
Also how can they prove where the smoke comes from?
Do landlords in NYC have the right to just let themselves into your apartment if they think you are smoking pot?

I agree...vaporize.

konakitty: Landlords , in a private house can see you come and go; and snoop around while you are out. Maybe even steal your weed (who you gonna call...?).Or steal anything else they see.

If the doorman tips off the super, in a condo/co-op building; he can sneak in with your extra key; and do the same.

If you are home -- get the baseball bat ready -- and bash anybody over the head; who tries to enter without your permission.

What about in a regular apt building with no door man. Some nosey bored neighbors complain that the smell is coming through the vents
Every1 is pointing at me but I take extra care to hide the smoke. The land lord has already asked me about it and said he is going to call the cops. I just dont believe that they can bother me with out knowing for sure who it is. I smoke far from my front door

K'ai come over & inhale?

jeez, all this pot talk. could someone hook me up?

"I smoke far from my front door"

Yeah, but the munchies 'ill give ya away. Don't let 'em see ya with cheetos.

Kona: No way to prove it. The neighbors have their knickers in a twist, over you. Who knows why, do you?

GET THE BASEBALL BAT READY TO SWING, AT ANYBODY WHO ENTERS YOUR APARTMENT; WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE -- AND YOUR PERMISSION!!!

Dwell: We will get together!

You mean someone is suspicious when I'm seen embracing a jar of Marshmallow Fluff?

Seriously, whoever is bitching needs to sit down take a few DEEP breathes and chill the f out....I'm sorry when a consenting adult cannot smoke pot in their own apartment in New York City, we have gone too far into the "Nanny State". Fortunately, although crime in NYC is but a shadow of its former self (thank God) the cops still have much more important things to do than bust adults in their homes for pot consumption/possession.

excellent, Truth

konakitty1 - go down to the smoke shop on West 4th Street btw. Cornelia and Jones and get yourself a vaporizer. You can spend as little as $60 or as much as $500, but for about $180 you will get a very good vaporizer. This will put an end to the complaints and stares from your neighbors + you'll be saving your lungs a bunch.

Dwell: Believe it !!!

Cops in my city never, ever respond to pot or noise complaints.

Vaporizers don't work, especially when the pot is really cheap skunky crap.

When my neighbor has a big weekend the stench is so bad that it permeates everything including my clothes and couch. I have TWO vaporizers and open windows, by the way. Our common hallway has a permanent musty half-baked smell.

No, it's not medicinal.

Complaints to the potsmoking neighbor result in threats. He's an angry stoner. I've never encountered one of those. It's worse than an angry drunk. I think he might drop acid, too, because he screams out things like "They're crawling on me, get 'em off me," followed by loud shrieks and long, loud rants of profanity. Nothing like being awoken to the sound of a grown man screaming "F*ck you! F************ck YOU!!!!!" When I've tried to reason with him he yells at me through the door and calls me a c*nt.

The problem is exacerbated by the fact that the pot smoker's parents own several units in the condo building and have a majority vote on the board. Our complaints go unanswered thanks to his parents' position and leverage on the condo board.

Several of us neighbors would move except the market is crap and we can't afford to sell at a loss. Three adjoining units are currently on the market (it's bad in my place but the neighbors who live above reefer madman have it so bad they are staying with friends until they can sell their place).

We talked to a lawyer, we have legal options, but were counseled that because it's "just pot" it's unlikely to go much beyond a slap on the wrist and the possibility of retaliation (mainly from the majority board parents) should be considered before taking action.

Wish I had some good advice to share, but I have none. My situation is awful and I feel for anyone dealing with this. It sounds like an SNL skit, and there are humorous angles to it, but until you live in this situation you have no idea how miserable it can be. If anyone has some real advice we'd appreciate it.

It sucks lass. You have few options and you know it. Good for levelheaded you. I had a townhouse condo in a pristine Canadian mountain town once. Our neighbors would use their unit sporadically but when they did, all hell broke loose and our quiet mountain hideaway became hell on earth. But our neighbors had just as much right to be obnoxious and loud as we did to be peaceful and considerate. So we moved. Problem solved. For that reason alone we didn't even consider condos when we came to New York.

But everyone deserves to live in peace. My gut instinct would be to start a campaign within the building. Write a letter to every owner and explain the situation in level headed but graphic detail and ask them to sign a petition. Put some pressure on the pot clan, make sure everyone in the building knows what's what and who's who. In fact, refer to them as the Pot Clan. Go to the meetings and scream at them. Why the f'ck should their lives not be at least as miserable as yours?

BTW the skunky crap is typically the best, not the cheapest.

Funny!! Halflass (Half-ass??) thinks the vaporizers are to ward off the scent of reefer!!!

the hallway on my floor often smells of tobacco, a known poison---whatever

i hear ya dog--quite funny

sounds like the lass could use a nice buzzz--chill down a bit---stop harrassing her peacelovin herbalist neighbors

tell your neighbor to try go this route: http://www.thestonerscookbook.com/

it is more of a creeper high but...

here is my perspective from the other side. im the smoker ... just moved into my ap 3 weeks ago and already my neighbor complained to the super about the sticky greens burning in my apt. all im saying is if we act like adults and approach the situation as such everything would work out much better. so instead of going to the super you come to you neighbor. probably best to bring a gatorade and some snacks

I've found that pot heads don't listen OR learn. Ask them a few times to stop, and if they don't, it means they couldn't give a rat's ass about you, so F' em and don't feel bad when you call the cops. If they instead do still have at least half a brain cell left and take it outside away from where it can enter your space, live and let live.