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Prospective Buyer's Sentiment

Started by NYC10007
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 432
Member since: Nov 2009
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I wanted to get a feel for how other prospective buyers feel about what they're seeing, and what the foot traffic is like at open houses. I went to three open houses this weekend. All 2BR/2BA: 1 UWS (pre-war, great condition, low floor, poor light, absurd maintenance), 1 Chelsea (gut reno, good building, tough co-op, poor layout) and 1 East Village, (low ceiling co-op, low floor, needs some real... [more]
Response by marco_m
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 2481
Member since: Dec 2008

Im enjoying the whole process. Its fun trying to figure out which way things are headed. If I'm right Im gonna save a ton of cash, if im worong I gotta pay current prices. I have no problems waiting

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Response by babsie02
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 139
Member since: Mar 2008

Went to one OH this weekend in Brooklyn and we were the only people there. It was a 2 bedroom. However, it was raining pretty hard so I assume that kept traffic down.

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Response by ILoveMuayThai
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 125
Member since: May 2009

can you even sell an apartment without a refrigerator?
i thought there was a law against that.

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Response by Boss77
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 88
Member since: Dec 2007

went to two OHs this weekend. First one, broker didn't show and didn't return phone calls. I've had this happen twice in the past month. Other OH had quite a few people. Still think prices are crazy, but what do I know.

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Response by tpushbklyn
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 137
Member since: Mar 2009

Attended one open house this weekend in Brooklyn .. desirable neighborhood, place had a parking space you could supposedly deed for 50K .. but the bottom line was they were asking $550,000 grand for a high-ceiling dump, poorly appointed, and directly off the BQE.

There's a rather large discrepancy out there between what landlords are waking up to in lowered rent, and what owners expect to get from a potential buyer. I'll keep an eye on the one place I looked at, and if they get anything close to the asking price within a few months I'll know to lower my expectations. Sure, it's New York City .. but whatever's going on out there, it doesn't seem in line with the times.

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Response by maly
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 1377
Member since: Jan 2009

I went to 4 open houses on Sunday in Brooklyn. 3 were mobbed (1 had 40 names after an hour and a half of OH!), 1 not so much. The first 3 were the almost perfectly to perfectly renovated, the last was underwhelming Home Depot style.
The prices are probably 10-20% below peak, but still twice what they were 5-6 years ago. I find it hard to pull the trigger.

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Response by NYC10007
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 432
Member since: Nov 2009

It sounds like most people who currently rent and are looking to buy (and not desperate to move/buy) have a clear number in their mind of what they think is a fair price. There seems to be an overwhelming sentiment that asking prices are a good 20-30% above that number. (at least that's how I feel and what I've taken from a lot of posters on SE) Maybe I'm completely off here, but I just feel like many sellers (and their brokers) are completely out of their minds right now.

Essentially what I'm hoping to figure out from this is whether or not foot traffic will = offers and sales close to absurd asking prices. If so, I may be very quickly get over the urge to own manhattan real estate and so long as I live in this city, be a happy renter.

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Response by KeithB
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 976
Member since: Aug 2009

@maly; 40 in an hour? Maybe this was a continuation of last weeks lookers....

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Response by tpushbklyn
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 137
Member since: Mar 2009

NYC - the number of days property stays on the market without selling is a much more telling sign than the amount of foot traffic at an open house. I'd also be interested in knowing how much making a cash offer would motivate a particular seller to lower asking price.

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Response by NYCApt1234
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 181
Member since: Apr 2009

NYC10007 you have just described my husband and my lives!!!!!!! Renters, don't need to buy, would like to buy, have cash, and think properties are 20-30% over what they should be. Good to know we're in the boat alone!

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Response by rlmnyc
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 273
Member since: May 2009

We're not even going to open houses anymore until we see a real reduction in asking prices. With such limited inventory, we're not willing to compete with other potential buyers for subpar apartments.

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Response by maly
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 1377
Member since: Jan 2009

Keith, I checked: all the pages had 1/17 on top, different handwriting, same ink. The house was really lovely, magnificent bones, if oddly decorated. The current broker raised the price by 21% when he took over from a smaller broker (listing wasn't on Streeteasy then, but I found out after talking to a local contact after the OH.)
I am uneasy committing, but if I fell in love or if rents start going back up, I may jump.

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Response by supergirl
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 8
Member since: Aug 2008

We went to 2 open houses on Sunday, both 2 bed/2 baths in unattractive brick doorman buildings over on 1st Ave in the E70s. The smaller one, ~1100 sq ft, was nicely renovated, average light. The larger one, ~1300 sq ft, needed a ton of work and dark. Asking prices 825-850k with high maint - seems rediculous to me. But considerable foot traffic in pouring rain. rlmnyc, i think you have the right idea.

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Response by dewyagi
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 98
Member since: Jan 2010

maly, rent is not going up for SURE. :) good news to all of us.

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Response by maly
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 1377
Member since: Jan 2009

I'm old enough to have seen rents and prices go up, down, up and down again. One thing I've noticed is that rents are much more plastic than prices, they go up and down much faster. We're one little recovery away from galloping rents, time horizon to be determined.

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Response by Sandimous
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 6
Member since: Oct 2009

I'm both going to try to sell my coop, and hoping to buy a house or condo - both in Park Slope. As a buyer, I haven't seen much yet that is right for us. We haven't seen a lot of people at open houses; they seem very slow to me.There doesn't seem to be a lot of good options out there, but I hope that changes as spring comes. As a seller I'm having a hard time pricing my property. Prices are all over the place and finding good comps has been hard. I want to price low enough to attract buyers and still have a shot of breaking even with what I paid.

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