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Gas FP or closet in master BR?

Started by Reno09
almost 16 years ago
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Would it be better to have a gas FP (there is a wood-burning FP in the den) in the master BR or extra closet space?
Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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walking closet is a must (for me) ... extra closet means a tiny little closet on top of hte walking closet? i don't know how much closet space does the house have overall...

FP adds tons of value in the living room of a house in the forest/farm/beach... for me it doesn't do the trick as well in a rather small city apartment (what's hte total square footage?). much less in a BR.

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Response by aboutready
almost 16 years ago
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your closet walks? does it run, too?

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Response by The_President
almost 16 years ago
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choose the closet. If the master bedroom does not have any closet space, it legally cannot be counted as a bedroom and you may have trouble come resale.

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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lol i have 2, they are now officially named the pets i'm not allowed to have. they also bark when they say "lady, enough stuff already!"

funny how little sleep can animate my house.

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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yes, closets closets... i may add that i adore both equally and i don't know how i managed before having them... oh what perfect pets!

i love uncluttered homes (a must for me in small spaces) but who knows how the general public feels about this. there has to be some research done in this area Reno (regarding resale value).

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Response by ph41
almost 16 years ago
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If you will already have a fireplace in the den, go with the extra closet space IMHO

The_President - of course a room can be called a bedroom even without closet space - are you kidding? Haven't you looked at floorplans recently? On some of them the closet for the BR is out in the hall.

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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but ph41, developers would call a second bathroom "the 3er bedroom" if they think that might entice anybody. you don't have to buy the terminology.

most of the 2 bedrooms i've visited are real 1 bedrooms (1 bedroom with living room plus dining room) that can be converted and the 3 bedrooms are real 2 bedrooms... wonder whether i should look into 5 bedrooms listings to find the 3 bedroom i'm looking for.

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Response by ph41
almost 16 years ago
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admin - look at some of those less than prime UWS 5 rooms (3 "real" bedrooms, no dining room) where the tiny bedroom doesn't have a closet IN the room.

Another clue about a "convertible 2 BR" - doesn't have a second bath.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 16 years ago
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Are you doing a reno of a duplex in a townhouse? Then, wbfp.

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Response by Reno09
almost 16 years ago
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It's a duplex in a apt building, not townhouse. I have another 6x10 walk-in closet in the master BR. This closet was the one I was going to give my husband. :) It would be a wall closet about 5'-6' long.

Does that change anyone's opinion?

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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"This closet was the one I was going to give my husband."

this changes my opinion, i'll tell hubby his super lucky i allow him to use the pet.

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 16 years ago
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Why not just have extra space in the bedroom?

Bedrooms in this city never seem to be big enough to hold a proper "grown-up" bedroom suite: queen-sized bed (ideally California king!), night stands on BOTH sides of the bed, triple dresser, and highboy. Lingerie chest if you have extra room. a bonus would be room for a nice wing chair and reading table.

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Response by NYCMatt
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I think for resale value, any prospective buyer would be happy with the extra space in the bedroom, rather than a fireplace or redundant closet.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 16 years ago
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Ah, Matt - have you been in every master bedroom in every apt in the city?

To each their own - I like having clothes in a large walk-in closet over having clothing in a triple dresser, highboy, armoir combo. Space is luxurious if you just have it to loll around in as opposed to using it for furniture. My 2 cents, of course.

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Response by NYCMatt
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"Ah, Matt - have you been in every master bedroom in every apt in the city?"

You don't have to be in every master bedroom in the city to get a representative sample of what's out there (particularly just by perusing floor plans on websites like this).

Indeed, to each their own. My suggestion, however, was to maximize resale value by letting the prospective buyer figure out what he or she wants to do with the space, rather than locking it up in a closet or a fireplace that will never be used, except maybe once or twice a year.

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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"Indeed, to each their own. My suggestion, however, was to maximize resale value by letting the prospective buyer figure out what he or she wants to do with the space, rather than locking it up in a closet or a fireplace that will never be used, except maybe once or twice a year."
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but how much does it cost to get rid of that closet? does it make sense to think about resale value in this economy at all? i mean, i bet that Reno bought for the very long run, so better take her/his needs into account. if a prospective buyer would like to get rid of that closet, Reno09 could offer to pay the cost of getting rid of it (it's not gonna break the bank imho).

as a walk-in closet user that shares it with hubby... there might be advantages to having his and her closet separate. one is that being myself a super generous gal, my hubby took more than half of the space, and the prime (i put myself in the ghetto part of the w/c). also in many occasions we are getting ready at the same time, so we have to synchronize movements...

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Response by ph41
almost 16 years ago
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It's the best not having to share the closet space - and in NY, where space is at a premium, the luxury of having his and her closets in the master BR is wonderful.

And Matt- just judging by the OP's comments- really doesn't sound as if the bedroom is small. - seems pretty spacious, actually.

And to call any closet in NY "redundant" LMAO

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Response by ph41
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OH wait- that's right - you live by yourself, except when you have unfortunate friends staying with you - bet you'd like the extra closet then.

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Response by ph41
almost 16 years ago
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Sorry - the "redundant" closet

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Response by peanut
almost 16 years ago
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closet!

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Response by The_President
almost 16 years ago
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"The_President - of course a room can be called a bedroom even without closet space - are you kidding?"

Legally, a bedroom MUST have a door, window, and a closet. Any smart appraiser should deduct from the value if any of those 3 are missing. And if that happens, you will have trouble getting a mortgage.

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Response by ph41
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Prez - in NY a bedroom must have a window tolegally be called a room - closet is optional.

That is why so many loft apartments have what they call a "den" (i.e. no window), while implying that of COURSE it can be USED as a bedroom once you move in.

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Response by ph41
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Prez- you don't live in NY right? Alpine NJ or somewhere like that?

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Response by alanhart
almost 16 years ago
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Why on earth would you even consider a fireplace in the bedroom? A few people sitting around the hearth in the living room sounds delightful, especially if it's a remote-controlled fire. Bedroom? Why?

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 16 years ago
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I can't believe I'm agreeing with Alan on this one.

Fireplaces in the bedrooms are very McMansion-esque, and only make sense when you've got tons of otherwise unusable space.

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Response by ph41
almost 16 years ago
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I once saw a fireplace in a master bathroom (yes it was a suburban McMansion) - THAT was truly ridiculous

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Response by nyc10023
almost 16 years ago
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AH: romance, okay, romance. Matt: back in the day, every room had a WBFP for warmth. Very Mcmansiony, huh. It also sounds like the OP is putting back a fp where one was - I can't imagine getting permission for a brand-new flue in a building or OP is on the top floor/s. In that case, I would fp in living space. But if there is already a flue for an fp in the mbr, by all means, get it relined and working.

Romance lives.

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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agree.

the sitting room area in the master bedroom; you never know, you might feel like not leaving the room someday
fire places whenever possible; even though there's central heating
granite countertops; wine cooler; sub zero refri... even though wife rarely cooks
designer door knob and faucets for $400 and up each; this one, i don't know why, oh why

will mark the style of choice during the past housing bubble. rosario candela would be shock with the tackiness.

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Response by Reno09
almost 16 years ago
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Just a little background...

There is a fireplace already in the master bedroom. It apparently took the previous owner 2 years to get landmark approval for the flue and the unit is gas and in good-shape. Knowing that, I feel a bit hesitant ripping it out, even though I know that a closet will get more use.

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 16 years ago
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Oh.

That changes everything.

If it's original, leave it in place.

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Response by alanhart
almost 16 years ago
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Not original, just previous owner.

Since when do gas fireplaces need flues? I don't believe the ones in prewar classic sixes had them. On the other hand, the gas lines in the building I grew up in had long before been shut off, so maybe that answers my question.

Rip it out.

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Response by Truth
almost 16 years ago
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Another closet: It's a good thing!!! (full disclosure: I'm a female).

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