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0.5 point fee for co-op fixed-rate mortgages

Started by kewlly
almost 16 years ago
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I'm in the process of getting an agency jumbo (jumbo conforming, which is between 417,000 and 729,000) mortgage, and I was told by my lender (Citibank) that there is a standard 0.5 point charge for agency jumbo mortgages for co-op purchases that would have to be absorbed into the mortgage rate. I've talked to some other banks and they claim no knowledge of this fee, but Citibank claims it's a standard thing that all lenders have to pay. Can anyone who's familiar with mortgages shed some light on this? Thanks.
Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

it's a tax that albany is now allowing the city to implement, apparently the city was thinking about it since koch... anyway, condos pay it, this would unify it.

why not asking for a price discount to the seller so that the monthly payment remains the same for you? (hence transferring the tax to the seller). once the cost is known, it should be reflected on prices imho.

as explained by UD:
http://www.urbandigs.com/2010/02/a_coop_mortgage_recording_tax.html

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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sorry! it's just a closing cost, not a higher rate (sorry! but still, why not asking hte seller to pay for it?)

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Response by mbrokerNY
almost 16 years ago
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Its a PAF or "Price adjustment factor".

What is your credit score and loan to value?

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Response by kewlly
almost 16 years ago
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high 700s. 80% LTV.

notadmin, I'm not referring to the mortgage recording tax, this is a different type of charge imposed by Fannie/lender/state (I'm not sure which).

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Response by shong
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2008

Not familiar with the .5 fee. Perhaps its just a citibank thing. Sunny.hong@bankofamerica.com

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Response by 007
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: Nov 2008

initially when they increase the definition of jambo from 417k to 729k the banks were allowed to add it. As the program was extended and the competition increased (fewer buyers) most banks drop this and incorporated it to the general origination structure. I refinanced in June 09 and had the same experience. Citi identified it as a seperate charge while others (Astoria etc) did not have it or did not separate it. The conclusion- when you compare cost of mortgage look at the totality of the rate including all points paid.

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Response by urbandigs
almost 16 years ago
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given Citi's stock performance, my guess is they need to collect all the extra fees they can to keep their employees and pay out their bonuses! But not to worry, the bonus babies will help lift the value of your asset over time! So FEE ON!

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Response by kewlly
almost 16 years ago
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Any mortgage brokers have color on what the 30-year fixed agency jumbo mortgage rate is looking like currently?

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Response by shong
almost 16 years ago
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Kewlly, it was about 5.125 with 0 pts today depending on credit score and LTV.

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Response by kewlly
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 34
Member since: Dec 2007

Thanks shong. I locked a 5.25 rate with about a quarter point credit back to me from the lender. Not as good as 5.125, but close enough.

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