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Maintenance in NYC

Started by Eastside
almost 16 years ago
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Was just thinking about maintenance....Most buildings have increases every year....correct? Is the average about 4%?So if an apt with a $900 mtce in 2010 would have yearly increases of 4%...we would be at $2,700 maintenance in 30 yrs...SOUNDS CRAZY...esp for a studio!
Response by PMG
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 1322
Member since: Jan 2008

I think you'll find if you compound at 2.5% you get a much more reasonable figure, $1888. That's been closer to my buildings long term inflation rate. And a studio in 30 years at less than $1900/mo since the mortgage is paid off, sounds pretty good.

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Response by technologic
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 253
Member since: Feb 2010

The maintenance in my building - despite only "amenities" being a bike/storage room and no underlying mortgage - has skyrocketed since 2007. For 2010 alone we had a 10% maintenance increase, plus an "assessment" running 9 months of 2010 which was the exact equivalent of another 10% = overall 20% overall increase. I am LIVID. I highly suspect something shady is going on and am anxiously awaiting this years financials.

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Response by inquirer
almost 16 years ago
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technologic, a lot of co-ops saw the same thing this year. This is the fifth ( the last) year of Bloomberg's property tax jump, among other things. But the tax jumped 14%. Awful.

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Response by technologic
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 253
Member since: Feb 2010

Inq - good point, and maybe the costs will all be accounted for - its just so hard for my family, we bought partly bc the maint was very reasonable (660) now it is close to 1000! Part of the reason that when we do sell down the line I will never buy in a coop again, its just signing your bank account away to them.

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Response by inquirer
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 335
Member since: Aug 2007

In condos it's even worse. Taxes are all your own, and if you thing that CC in condos don't skyrocket for no reason, think again.
There's no way to avoid the property tax increases.
Now talk about doormen strike... They got the nerve.

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Response by inquirer
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 335
Member since: Aug 2007

"..if you THINK"...

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Response by semerun
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 571
Member since: Feb 2008

technologic, Water bills have skyrocketed in the last 2 years (I think it was 12-15%), Con Ed bills (both electric as well as heating costs) have increased significantly in the last 2 years as well. Taxes have increased, etc. It doesn't matter if you are in a condo or a co-op...if your building didn't plan in advance for these costs- it is no shocker that your carrying costs went up massively.

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 3835
Member since: Jul 2008

don't increases in property taxes hit condos too? my guess is that in NY city and NY state, unfunded pension liabilities will hit property taxes more than earned income taxes. they might apply taxes to pensions, SS and the like, but wage taxes are already high imho.

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Response by Craquelin
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 32
Member since: Apr 2007

If people started realizing we actually pay for things like WATER, they might address those seemingly little annoying drips their kitchen faucet makes...our building tries to hold down, if not hold off, increases...but as long as we waste, AND use fossil fuel..."they've" got us by the balls.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
almost 16 years ago
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There's another reason why maintenance increased so much in so many buildings: a lot of Coops used the flip taxes they collected to finance operating expenses. less sales, less flip tax revenue. And for Coops that base the flip tax on PROFIT, well..................

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 7523
Member since: May 2009

"technologic, a lot of co-ops saw the same thing this year. This is the fifth ( the last) year of Bloomberg's property tax jump, among other things. But the tax jumped 14%. Awful."

Well SOMEONE has to pay for those Section 8 vouchers that will help keep "diversity" alive in NYC!

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Response by dc2172
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 20
Member since: Sep 2009

Section 8 funding is federal. Someone has to pay for unfunded pension liabilities (of both the city and the state)!!! that one is much bigger ticket item than Section 8.

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Response by technologic
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 253
Member since: Feb 2010

Oh my lord I think I am having a stroke thinking my money is going to MTA employee pensions. Everytime I hear something about the MTA and their budgeting issues my blood pressure goes through the roof because they are the most lazy no good POS I have ever observed in all my years. (Do you want to know how I really feel, lol?)

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Response by notadmin
almost 16 years ago
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tech, don't worry. for the most part if lazy teachers that fail to teach their students how to count without using their fingers... 6 figures many of them. talk about rewarding failure!!!

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