What is considered prime Tribeca?

Area between w broadway, duane st, murray st and west st.

There are sort of two hot spots -- around N. Moore towards the West is sort of David Letterman land, and further to the south West of West Broadway.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

Btw, can anyone tell me what is considered prime SoHo?

prime soho today is like a mall. What happened to the boutiques and charm. Seriously only the big retailers want to pay those rents and as such we are flooded with Crocs, American Eagle, Abercrombie and other crap. SOHO is terrible now... not to mention the freaking tourists and B and T crowd that think they are shoping in the coolest district in the world. Sorry but you can buy all that crap in a mall in Yipsilanti, Michigan.

Tribeca is south of canal, West of West Broadway all the way to the river, and north of Reade. Below that gets too commercial and is not what you are paying for down there.

Ali R what do you mean by Letterman Land?

Prime soho is a rectangle formed by Lafayette, Houston, West broadway and Grand. My favorite streets are Mercer, Crosby and Greene. Broadway, Prince and Spring are often overrun by people and street vendors.

agreed crosby is great. but too close to the hustle and bustle and all the f*cking tourists

all of tribeca is prime.

Tribeca, will be renamed Tri-Niro

I was citing David Letterman as an example of the "celeb" ness of that northern part of Tribeca (he lives in CT, but has an NY place). The "old" example, before he died, was JFK Jr.

ali r.

lol mutombonyc!

I kind of agree with "all of tribeca is prime." It's not like an emerging neighborhood (e.g., Harlem) where there it's block by block. Some blocks are nicer aesthetically, and I think when people talk about "prime" Tribeca they generally mean North of Reade and West of West Broadway, which "feels" like Tribeca with cobblestone streets, huge lofts, etc. I lived on Murray Street after 9/11 - it was dirt cheap - and back then that street did not feel like "prime" tribeca, with a run down strip club on the block, a couple dive bars, and no grocery stores. Now, with the Equinox, Starbucks, Amish Market, that development wtih Whole Foods, Bed Bath & Beyond, Barnes & Nobles, etc. it has probably better amenities and definitely has better subway access (4/5/6, N/R, 2/3, A/C/E) than historically prime North Tribeca (who really "pops" into Nobu or Wolfgangs for dinner every night anyway). It's still not as physically charming but probably more convenient. Also, if you have kids, the school zoning is something to think about, not just the current zoning, but being physically close to PS 234 probably assure the highest chance of not being "zoned out" of the school.

Point is, it all depends on you. As long as the street is not offensive to you (this is a personal thing and you can tell immediately) and it's relatively convinient for the way you live your life (in terms of subways, shops, etc.), within Tribeca, I would go for the nicest apartment I could and not obsesss about street (within reason - would not want to be in those desolate blocks near Canal and West Side Highway or south of Barclay's.

Totally disagree that "all Tribeca is prime", except in contrast with (say) UES. If you mean prime *blocks*, then I nominate N Moore from Varick to Hudson; Franklin from Varick to Greenwich; Harrison and Jay from Hudson to Greenwich; Duane from Hudson to Greenwich; and Hudson from Reade to N. Moore. That's it, with that Duane block as my personal #1.

I've lived on Hudson, West Broadway and Broadway going back to 1981, so I have *strong* opinions about this. Classic Tribeca 'charm' declines as you go east of Varick, north of N. Moore, south of Reade. There are many beautiful and great Tribeca buildings on other blocks, but that is a very different question.

If pressed to add blocks, I would consider the parts of NW Tribeca that are a bit removed from the Holland Tunnel spillways and from Canal St and from West St and from 388 Greenwich, such as Laight, Vestry and Desbrosses from and including Washington and Greenwich.

From the other direction, I would especially call these blocks Not Prime (though some have great loft residences on them): Hudson from Beach to Laight; Beach from Hudson to Varick; and anything west of Church. My current 'fave' as scuzziest block in Tribeca is Lispenard between Church + Broadway. (Walk that, then tell me if Tribeca is not block-by-block.)

But that's just one (ML) Guy's opinion! Your friend may have preferences that would change this list based on, e.g., subway proximity, PS 234 proximity, river proximity, auto traffic or noise, street views, light, etc, etc. And (to repeat): there are many great loft buildings outside of (my) "prime" area.

Agree with kpseak and actually you need to be concerned about the school zoning whether or not you have kids if you looking 2+ bedroom places as it will affect the resale value. That dividing line is now Church Street.

There are no horrible blocks but Chambers is a major artery and about to undergo years of construction. This will probably have some effect on the blocks north and south of it. The streets closest to Canal on the east side of Tribeca also have some issues with traffic, street vendors and garbage. In addition to subway access and store amenities the southern part also has access to Batter Park City, which is great for runners, kids and dogs.

I've always thought chambers, not Murrary.... so much of what's south of chambers is essentially downtown. Hell, city hall is above murray.

I don't think anybody is saying anything different than what I said. The classic tribeca charm certainly does not exist around murray street - as I noted - and is also somewhat lack in the far Northwest corner right next to canal street, as I also noted (not to mention the trek to get to any kind of amenity). But, from an amenities and daily convenience point of view, some of the non prime blocks have their advantages. It comes down to whether it bothers you not to have the classic tribeca charm - but this is something you can tell when you see the street immediately.

"My current 'fave' as scuzziest block in Tribeca is Lispenard between Church + Broadway. (Walk that, then tell me if Tribeca is not block-by-block.)"

Incidentally, (and correct me if I'm wrong), isn't that the original Tribeca block?

city hall is also east of Broadway. West of Broadway Warren is completely residential and Murray is mostly residential. I don't think residents of either would claim it has the charm of Duane Street but they are a farther cry from the financial district.

I don't think being residential defines a block as non-financial district any more. There have been SO many conversions...

In my opinion, prime tribeca was recently re-written by the PS 234 zoning change. I would think that you have to be west of Church and north of Murray to be considered prime.

If we're doing that, shouldn't we also switch West for Greenwich? That leaves out the mitchell lama buildings, BMCC, etc.

@ bjw2103 -- yup! Wiki has the story as I have heard it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribeca

somewhereelse,

What's the name of the mitchel lama bldg in TriNiro?

What is the craze with prime tribeca?

You talking about Independence Plaza? No longer Mitchell-Lama.

Thnx.