LIC rocks!

Long Island City has much better ground-source methyl tertiary butyl ether than Hell's Kitchen. LIC Rocks!

"Hey!"

yeah, but which duane reade is better?

maybe thats what saves people from death. more band-aids.

SWE, you're going to have to stop quoting nyc10012 making up a quote from me that I didn't say.

I stand by everything I said within the context that I said it in.

The Dow went up, it went down. That's what happens.

ok, this is getting funnier. now steve is claiming other people said what streeteasy has him in black and white on.

> The Dow went up, it went down.

and steve calls down before the ups, and ups before the downs. Like clockwork.

> making up a quote from me that I didn't say.

i love it.

I literally just pasted in from steve's postings. Now we're "making it up".

At least you are sort of admitting your original comments made no sense.

Toxic Waste Nightmare

"What was supposed to be a quiet southern dumping run from Long Island City to Morehead City, North Carolina became a sad saga that ended several months later with 3,100 tons of decayed trash being unloaded right back in Long Island City for disposal."

http://kerboblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/swine-flu-vaccines-now-become-toxic.html

"I literally just pasted in from steve's postings."

Nope. Check again.

"and steve calls down before the ups, and ups before the downs."

If you mean by that that I don't catch the exact bottom or the exact top, you're exactly right. No one can - except, apparently, you!

> Nope. Check again.

Yup. You can repeat yourself all you want though (as usual), still won't change your mistake.

> If you mean by that that I don't catch the exact bottom or the exact top, you're exactly right.

Nope, I mean you say up, and it goes down. You say down, and it goes up.

Pretending being 100% off is "not catching the exact bottom" is wacky, Steve.

Wrong is wrong. And you have been wrong by a mile.

Really, SWE? Find where I said this: "Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold."

Can't be done.

I told you what I said and when I said it. Sorry you don't like it.

If I were off "100%" then I'd be broke - which apparently is not the case. I'm still up from where I was when I bought, just not as up as I was on Friday. And less up than I will be when the relief rally is over. From what I can tell you're pretty much the only one with your view that stocks will be UP UP UP forever into the future.

Steve, its pretty funny to watch you dance like that....

"From what I can tell you're pretty much the only one with your view that stocks will be UP UP UP forever into the future."

dancing and lying....

"Really, SWE? Find where I said this: "Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold"

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"6) Stock indices drop 20-25% from current levels"

Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold.

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Thank you for proving me right, SWE. Here's what I said, in response to what someone else said:

stevejhx
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"3. Rents INCREASE as the number of sales fall"

Rents will DECREASE as the number of new development condos that can't be sold skyrockets, and buildings are converted. 1,300 new units in Silver Tower alone, on the Far West Side.

Rents are already collapsing before that, though.

"6) Stock indices drop 20-25% from current levels"

Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/6864-what-are-your-predictions-for-2009

I was ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY RIGHT: The Dow DID rise to 11,000, and rents did fall.

What I DIDN'T say was "6) Stock indices drop 20-25% from current levels"

NYC10013 said that.

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I was right: the Dow troughed at about 6,500, peaked at about 11,000. My timing and the exact numbers are not 100% perfect, but I was right.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

And further, FYI, SWE: I switched my position to short just shy of the Dow 11,000 level, when I thought it became overbought. I still think it's overbought, and I'm keeping my short positions regardless of what stocks do today. The market crash last week - and a rally on a bailout - are not reasons to celebrate the strength of the economy.

Bailouts are not a reason to buy stock.

Steve - "Dow Below 6,500! Y ou laughed when I said it!"
Steve - "Nor did I say that we would go to 6,500 on the Dow."

Steve - "SWE, you're going to have to stop quoting nyc10012 making up a quote from me that I didn't say"
Steve - ""Really, SWE? Find where I said this: "Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold""
Steve - Here's what I said, in response to what someone else said:
"Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold."

LMFAO!
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With dow at 9k, steve calls 11k, says "I DID NOT CALL DOW 6500" and dow almost immediately tanks to under 7k. Then Steve tries to take a victory lap for calling dow 6500!

Oh my lord, Steve, you are toast.

Steve 4 hours ago - "I DID NOT SAY THAT"
Steve 3 hours ago - "AGAIN, I DID NOT SAY THAT"
Steve 2 hours ago - "AGAIN, I DID NOT SAY THAT"
Steve 1 hour ago - "AGAIN, I DID NOT SAY THAT"
Steve now - "ok, I said that, but if somehow ignore the fact i was wrong, I was right".

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Thanks for the endless laughs Steve!

> What I DIDN'T say was "6) Stock indices drop 20-25% from current levels"
> NYC10013 said that.

Yes, I know. The correct part, you didn't say! I never thought you did!

The exact part I said you said - which you said you didn't say and said that someone else did - you said!

Wow, Steve, looks like its back to first grade for you!

Steve - ""Really, SWE? Find where I said this: "Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold""
Steve - Here's what I said, in response to what someone else said:
"Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold."

Da boat a yez is in prime form today.

There is officially no one with more bad calls on this board than Steve.

I provided the link, SWE: 16 months ago my position was:

Rents will DECREASE
Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000

That's what I said would happen. I provided the link. I DID NOT say that stocks would fall 25% from where they were 16 months ago.

Had you asked me on Friday what I thought stocks would do, I would have told you that I thought they would show a slight increase - in fact, I was surprised they fell on Friday. I didn't think they would rise as much as they have (thus far) today, but then I had no way of knowing that the EEC was going to fork over $1 trillion.

My record is there, with the links SWE. In the context (16 months ago) I was 100% correct.

HAHAHAHA!

> I provided the link, SWE: 16 months ago my position was:

Yes, it was the link to the quote YOU CLAIMED YOU DIDN'T SAY.
You were wrong... again!

You also called UP on the dow, right before it TANKED!
And then you claimed at the bottom you called it!

Steve, you are hillarious! Noone has made more mistakes on this board. You've officially beat spunky out!

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> In the context (16 months ago) I was 100% correct.

Steve, in what context does calling up, and then the dow losing 30% make you correct???

Probably in the same context where "I DID NOT SAY THAT" means "I SAID THAT".

The context where black is white and day is night, and Steve can freely wallow in his own nonsense.

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"Yes, it was the link to the quote YOU CLAIMED YOU DIDN'T SAY."

Because I didn't understand what you were referring to. I clearly said (and meant) what I wrote.

"You also called UP on the dow, right before it TANKED!"

No. At approximately the level it's at today I reversed course on the Dow. It did rise more than I thought it would, then it fell much faster than I thought it would (though not farther).

I'm not The Mighty Karnak, and I can't guess today's or tomorrow's closing price. However, I'm also not AT ALL confident in the strength of a market that can have 3% or more swings in a single day. To me that indicates that the market is on shaky ground.

Actually, thinking about what the market has been doing in the last week is making me nauseous. These wild swings don't feel right. The last time I remember this happening was in the days of TARP, when the market would be up wildly one day, then down the next.

This is not a proper market. It doesn't know which way it's going. Bailout rallies never last.

Here's what I mean:

"SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- After a strong rally earlier, the euro came off its Monday highs as some analysts began to voice concerns about the market's initially bullish response to Europe's massive rescue package."

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/euro-jumps-against-dollar-yen-on-eu-rescue-plan-2010-05-09

> Because I didn't understand what you were referring to

LMFAO. Now you're talking COMPLETE bs. Liar.

You didn't know that was the quote I meant? Funny... YOU NAMED IT SPECIFICALLY!

"Really, SWE? Find where I said this: "Stock indices rise to Dow 11,000 as the effects of the write-downs wear off, and all the new liquidity added into the economy takes hold.""

LMFAO

"You also called UP on the dow, right before it TANKED!"

"No. At approximately the level it's at today I reversed course on the Dow. It did rise more than I thought it would, then it fell much faster than I thought it would (though not farther"

Liar again!

Dow was at 9k. You called 11k, and it went almost immediately DOWN to 6500. That wasn't timing, that wasn't reversing course... you just CALLED IT WRONG.

LMFAO

> I'm not The Mighty Karnak, and I can't guess today's or tomorrow's closing price.

We're not talking about being a few points off, or not calling a top/bottom correctly.
Steve, you're being COMPLETELY disingenous.

You were simply FUNDAMENTALLY wrong, over and over again.

"Actually, thinking about what the market has been doing in the last week is making me nauseous. These wild swings don't feel right. The last time I remember this happening was in the days of TARP, when the market would be up wildly one day, then down the next.

This is not a proper market. It doesn't know which way it's going. Bailout rallies never last."

So, steve has been wrong OVER and OVER and OVER again... and here is his latest excuse...

the MARKET is wrong.

i love it.

Steve confuses "up" and "down", "I said that" and "I did not say that", and BRAGS about calls he admitted he did not make, and MADE THE OPPOSITE CALL!

Wow, steve, you really are the new spunky!

Go spunky 2! Dance, amuse us all!

LMFAO

again, spunky 2, thanks for much for all the hillarious laughs today. Much appreciated.

Oh,SWE - you are a boor.

I didn't know what you were talking about because I didn't have a reference or context. I searched on it and couldn't find it, but when I eventually did find the link (not provided by you) and saw the whole thread, then it made sense. I said what I said when I said it, and I stick by it: it was in response to someone else's post.

"Dow was at 9k."

Nope. I reversed course in March of this year, at about Dow 10,750. Up until that time I was 100% bullish.

I was not in the market at Dow 6,500. It was too volatile (as I also posted) and I stayed out for about a year.

At this point I'm short and staying short, and if I weren't I would sell everything I have.

That's not advice, and I may be proved wrong. But I haven't been - yet.

> Oh,SWE - you are a boor.

And you're an putz and a liar, steve. Better watch what names you call, as you're at the bottom of the list of intelligence on this board.

> I didn't know what you were talking about because I didn't have a reference or context.

Again, liar. YOU QUOTED IT STEVE.

Sorry, toots, you lied.

> Nope. I reversed course in March of this year, at about Dow 10,750. Up until that time I was 100%
> bullish.

Again, liar! You tried to take credit for calling 6500! And you yelled down about 30 times.

Steve, your lies are in black and white. You've reversed yourself multiple times in this thread alone.

You called UP right before we tanked 30%.... its all in black and white and you won't admit it.

> That's not advice, and I may be proved wrong. But I haven't been - yet.

Steve, this isn't an odometer. If you're wrong 99,999 times, being wrong once more doesn't reset you to zero.

There is noone on this board who has been proven wrong more than you, Steve! And its easy!

You are a joke, Steve. Spunky 2!!!

Thanks for all the laughs!

LMAO

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Yes, all the laughing is draining my fluids. Steve would be even funnier if I had a few drinks... either that or maybe he's drunk (that would explain a lot of things)

Good, so we'll see you Wednesday evening at the SE mixer.

"YOU QUOTED IT STEVE."

I know I did - I searched it on Google & on SE and couldn't find it, except after a few tries. It makes sense to me within the context of the full thread.

"You tried to take credit for calling 6500!"

I told you what I said: in the height of the Dow freefall I said we were headed toward Dow 6500. I didn't say we would reach it AT THAT TIME. As events evolved, I later said I thought we would hit it. I also said I thought the Dow would be at 11,000 at the end of 2009. We were close, but didn't quite make it by date.

SWE, you seem to think that I should be held to a standard of accuracy that no one else in the world is. I can't tell you what date and time the stock market will hit any particular level: no one can. I can tell you where I think it's going at a particular point in time.

This 400 point rally is to me as overdone as last week's 1000 point fall. I don't like rallies on government bailouts. The last one we had post-TARP died a quick death. When governments pledge $1 trillion to support a currency, it isn't a signal of strength. It's a signal of fundamental weakness.

Buy into today's rally if you think stocks will continue to go up. I happen to think that they will retest the lows of the 1,000 point crash. I don't agree with Cramer who says it will go down to 8,500. But maybe it will.

Here's an analysis I agree with:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=apEs5KHZq620&pos=4

Don't drink, sorry - no mixers for me.

Steve, keep digging yourself deeper.

You call down UP, it immediately goes down 30% over the next month, and then you claim credit for calling down. You claim "I didn't say that" when you clearly said it. You claim you didn't know what quote I was talking about, when you yourself quoted it. You make things up, then claim them as true, and then change the subject when called on it.

You are a joke.

You congratulate yourself over and over, including saying how you've never been proven wrong, while being the most proven wrong person on this board.

"SWE, you seem to think that I should be held to a standard of accuracy that no one else in the world is. I can't tell you what date and time the stock market will hit any particular level: no one can. I can tell you where I think it's going at a particular point in time."

You're not being held to a higher standard, Steve, you're FAILING FINE with the regular standard, where up DOESN'T mean DOWN and "I didn't say that" DOESN'T mean "I said that".

Pretending that you ewre basically right, just a little off on exact level or timing is laughable.
Inferring that you are 95% right and folks are calling you on the 5% is nutty.... when you are 100% wrong steve! Don't try and play the game of rounding errors when you're at the absolute bottom of the accuracy list.

Steve calls down, things go up (and he'll still claim he called up). Then Steve calls up, things go down (and he'll still claim he called down). Then, after bragging about calling down some more, he'll claim he's always called up.

He's a funny, funny liar.

This is hillarous.

Thanks again for all the laughs, Spunky 2!

No problem, you can bring your own Nestle's Strawberry Quik to XR.

Oh, SWE - you are funny!

Nope, don't catch things always at the top. Nor do I catch them always at the bottom. Yup I do change my mind when the circumstances change.

You only have to be right 51% of the time to make money. Thus far I'm about 95% right - wrong on timing by a few weeks, wrong on the actual inflection points by a few score, but overall, I'm about 95% right.

Did I think stocks would go up this much today? No. Did I think they would have fallen so much last week? No. I'm not that good. If I were I'd win the lottery my often.

You have my quotes, you have when I made them. Go back and look at the context.

> Nope, don't catch things always at the top. Nor do I catch them always at the bottom. Yup I do
> change my mind when the circumstances change.

Changing one's mind is good. Changing one's mind frequently the the wrong answer is not.

> You only have to be right 51% of the time to make money.

A little more with the commissions... but principle is correct.

> Thus far I'm about 95% right

Once again, you're confusing words.

You are 95% *wrong*. Wrong means "incorrect".

> You have my quotes, you have when I made them. Go back and look at the context.

Yup, I seem to know them all better than you. Thats how I' know you're 95% wrong.

You are 95% wrong... yes.

Its not timing, its not rounding errors.... you're just really wrong.

Spunky 2!

> Thus far I'm about 95% right

I just thought about how funny this one really is.

Complete delusion.

"I seem to know them all better than you"

You're a mind reader now?

spunky was wrong, I said he was wrong. He's gone. Malraux and many others, as well.

I don't think today's rally is any more reliable than last week's 1000-point fall. I think the mid-term outlook is closer to the 1000 point fall, but I wouldn't go as far as Cramer's 8,500. Some uptick was expected after last week's slide. Augmented by a $1 trillion bailout.

If I needed the money I invest with, I'd be out of the market till it calms down. Rallies based on government bailouts are not to be trusted.

> You're a mind reader now?

Don't have to read minds, I can read... black and white...

Only in your delusional mind can "context" make up down and wrong right.

Unless by context you mean that all along you've been playing the part of a guy who is always wrong...

ROFL.

> spunky was wrong, I said he was wrong. He's gone. Malraux and many others, as well

So wrong means you have to be gone?

When you leaving?

So I hear Long Island City has finally hit critical mass as an up-and-coming new area.

This whole thread feels like when Dawn Weiner started the special people club.

You have to love a part of NYC with it's own theme song:
There's no need to fear! Underdog is here!
when criminals in this world appear
and break the laws that they should fear
and frighten all who see or hear
the cry goes up both far and near
for Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!

speed of lightning, roar of thunder
fighting all who rob or plunder
Underdog. Underdog!

when in this world the headlines read
of those whose hearts are filled with greed
who rob and steal from those who need
to right this wrong with blinding speed
goes Underdog! Underdog! Underdog! Underdog!

speed of lightning, roar of thunder
fighting all who rob or plunder
Underdog. Underdog!

> This whole thread feels like when Dawn Weiner started the special people club.

awesome reference...