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4,000 new luxury condos sitting vacant

Started by somewhereelse
almost 16 years ago
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4,000 new luxury condos sitting vacant Units are in 138 buildings that owe city $3.8 million in back taxes; study recommends seizing and converting them to low-income or affordable housing. :: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20100511/REAL_ESTATE/100519963
Response by PMG
almost 16 years ago
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$3.8 million in back taxes for 4,000 vacant new luxury condos implies a $950 debt per condo. Seizing a condo for a $950 debt seems like a valid suggestion to whom?

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Response by mutombonyc
almost 16 years ago
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somewhereelse,

Did Hakeem Jeffries, have anything to do with this story? LOL.

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Response by alanhart
almost 16 years ago
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This whole study sounds like a ridiculous manipulation of stastical data. And if they ARE seized for low-income use, who will pay the future RE taxes (which, I assume, will remain what they are, right?)?

I wonder what the delinquency rate for these is compared with all RE, water and sewer taxes city-wide.

And I like the way they demonstrate "need" in a neighborhood by talking about the large numbers of low-income people in those neighborhoods, when of course almost all the low-income people are in the low-income housing projects in those neighborhoods, which only allow low-income people to rent.

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Response by NYC10007
almost 16 years ago
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There's no way more than a handful of these units will ever become affordable housing under the general 60% of AMI or lower guidelines. I could, however, see the City somehow getting some of these into the middle income (130% to 175% AMI) programs. At those levels they'll be essentially getting market rate rents in some of these neighborhoods anyway. The modern day Mitchell Lama program in full effect. Any they're already built!

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Response by maly
almost 16 years ago
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It seems half-baked: it takes money to finish abandoned buildings, and if the city makes them into homeless shelters, who will pay re taxes?
I agree that buildings in default should get auctioned by the city, with a posted bond to ensure completion of the buildings. Whether the units get sold or rented shouldn't matter.
Affordable housing is a completely different issue. It would be an incredibly costly and wasteful solution.

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Response by marco_m
almost 16 years ago
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at the current sales pace of new construction, how long would it take for these to get sold?

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Response by somewhereelse
almost 16 years ago
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When inventory was 7k, the estimate was 1.5 years...... so this is probably a little under a year additional inventory (on top of current inventory).

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Response by marco_m
almost 16 years ago
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are you joking me ??? i doubt if even 100 new construction places close in a month

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