How does one put an end to insanity?

Yes, when will the Arabs finally stop trying to destroy the Jewish people?

I wish I knew.

Me too, somewhereelse.

The ultra zionists (fascists) are just like the "good" folk who blamed everything on the Jews back in the 30's. Being abused and brutalized back then has resulted in a long, long nightmare: the Zionists and knee-jerk pro-Israeli government in any form have become but exactly like the fascists of the 30's. The Palestinians are the Jews of today ------ murdered and abused by their Israeli overlords (who learned but too well from the Nazis).
It's a clear case of what goes around comes around. And it is ugly. And it won't stop anytime soon. But Europe and the rest of the world sees this quite clearly. New York City --- not so much.

Thats a horribly ignorant analogy, particularly with the leaving out of Hamas, responsible for most of the death on both sides and whose stated goal is the death of a people.

Playing the victim card for Hamas is pretty pathetic... but, hey, its not like I'm not used to the hypocrisy.

nobody likes somewhereelse, but dogismy is wrong here. The Nazis supported the final solution to eliminate Jews as a race worldwide. They set up killing factories and prepared to take over the world.

The number of Arab people who left Israel when Israel was created is about equal to the number of Jews who were expelled from Arab lands in the 20s, 30s, 40s.

Jews want a small narrow piece of land that doesn't even have any oil. They allow Arabs to live there and vote and participate in democracy. They blockade areas where Iran and Syria send arms and rockets that are used to bomb civilians. They limit traffic through the country to block suicide bombers which was epidemic early just a few years ago.

The number of Arab people who left Israel when Israel was created is about equal to the number of Jews who were expelled from Arab lands in the 20s, 30s, 40s.

Israel would trade dozens and dozens of terrorists just for the life of one of their own soldiers captured by Hamas.

It's impossible to argue with someone like Dogismy. His mind is set in stone. No (recent) history or facts get through that stone.
Humans just don't learn; they just don't give a rat's ass.

> The Nazis supported the final solution to eliminate Jews as a race worldwide.

Not unlike... uh, well... Hamas...

incredible that Hamas is trying to play the Jew.

"It's impossible to argue with someone like Dogismy. His mind is set in stone. No (recent) history or facts get through that stone.
Humans just don't learn; they just don't give a rat's ass"

agreed. Ignorance and bigotry (of all types) is not something that gets argued away.

hate comes from within.

I think sjtmd (OP) meant that the discussion itself is the "insanity".
sjtmd, don't read it, dear. Just don't.

its possible.

Dogismy - you are too much a caricature of a lefty new yorker (sends his kids to some swank 'progressive school', pats himself on the back for how enlightened he is compared to those tea party 'rubes', while himself spouting the most intolerant vile views). You can't actually be for real - good on you for pulling it over everyone.

No, I think he or she is for real -- the real people who've been swayed by propaganda from the same anti-Israel institutions, especially in the past 10-20 years, that have prevented Palestinian Arabs from forming their state over the past 60+ years.

If you want to replace the content-deprived venomous platitudes that people like Dogismy run around spewing, and replace them with informed background and perspective, you'd do well not to mock him/her as a person, but to set her straight on the back and forth.

Israel is beautiful. I've been there many times.

Dog is using anti-zionism as a cover for being anti-semitic. The two are seldom different.

So what do you have to do to live in peace?
Die?
Keeping the Oil producers (and their poor Arab brothers) focused on Israel instead of developing their infrastructure, education and industry is exactly what the powers that be have in mind. As long as their energy is wasted in this regard nothing will ever happen to them except the exhaustion of their resources. Then they can go back to sandy camel jockeys and carpet salesman. Oh the folly!

Oil is old news. The next war in the mideast will be fought over water. Big issue.

>Riversider

Ha, since I think 2 of the 4 Israel-Arab wars were over water.

"you'd do well not to mock him/her as a person, but to set her straight on the back and forth."

Not too successful educating dog so far I see... Step one is admitting you have a problem. It cuold be called manic depressive psychosis with clearly exhibited schizophrenic delirium. Pills might help to alleviate the fear that an ultra zionist fascist is on your tail. Or it might not.