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City set to auction off six Manhattan apartments

Started by malcolmnc
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Response by e76
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thanks malcolm. you're on top of this stuff.

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Response by PPlayer
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What's the point of an auction when none of the properties seem to be a good value at their starting bid?

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Response by alanhart
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I don't understand the pricing difference between the two Grand Street properties.

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Response by Wbottom
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thx malcolm for posting--pls continue

i also question whether there is any great value in these cases--psf's at starting bids seem to be on the high side, certainly for a reserve

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Response by PPlayer
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alanhart: I have been to 550 Grand and the apartments vary greatly in quality. I visited one unit that was a complete "fixer-upper", rotted parquet floors, grimy walls, small windows, poor light, bad smell, needed a complete gut and sanitation. None of the apartments in the auction are reasonable considering the restrictions and being sold "as is".

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Response by malcolmnc
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It's so hard to know value without actually seeing the units--a host of variables, as I'm sure each of you knows, e.g. floor level, views, condition. I know that I wouldn't price a property without seeing it and then adjusting the price in relation to available comps from recently sold apartments. That said, bargains at auction certainly can be elusive.

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Response by front_porch
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AH, 570 is on the FDR Drive block, so it's possible that it has a better view than 550, possibly of a sliver of river/bridges.

However, the SF numbers are obviously wrong -- my guess is that there's a typo in one, and the 3-BR listed as "350 square feet" is probably "1350 square feet." However, the other I can't guess at except to say it's probably not 780 -- 3-BRs down there don't come in that small a footprint.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by malcolmnc
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According to published information, 780-sf is correct for the apartment at 550 Grand--I'm surprised too. But I committed a typo (it must be the heat) on the other unit, at 570 Grand; it should be 1,350.

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Response by front_porch
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Heat indeed! I feel like I have to slug ice water just to work.

However, I'm still going with "a 780 sf 3-BR doesn't make any sense at 550 Grand." That (Hillman Housing) is a 1940s building, designed at a gracious time, and the 1-BRs tend to be around 750. I've never seen an original 3-BR there, only combos, but even if you combo'd two studios in the building it would be more than 1,000 sf.

I guess you could take a corner 1-BR of 780 sf and divide the BR in half, but then you still have to cut the LR in half too and be left with a windowless, interior LR.

But I guess we'll know more as the auction progresses. Thanks again Malcolm for all the great reporting.

ali r.

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Response by lookingforhome
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Wow, that Washington Heights apartment is in one of the neighborhood's premiere co-ops. I knew things were bad up here, but I didn't realize they are that bad.

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Response by malcolmnc
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I'm not sure why you say an estate auction suggests that things are bad (worse?) in Washington Heights than they are elsewhere.

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Response by somewhereelse
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> What's the point of an auction when none of the properties seem to be a good value at their starting bid?
TOTALLY agreed, especially with ALL CASH and AS IS.

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Response by malcolmnc
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I saw new information today that the apartment at 550 Grand St. does not in fact have three bedrooms. Given the 780 square feet, it makes much more sense that it contains but one bedroom and a single bath.

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Response by malcolmnc
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Another foreclosed Manhattan apartment is heading to auction, but it's nothing special: http://bit.ly/9upMXz

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Response by malcolmnc
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Sorry, folks, the post didn't show up as planned. It's here now: http://www.serviceyoucantrustblog.com/

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Response by malcolmnc
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Curbed notes that the first closing of the auctioned m127 units has occurred: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/jump/acris.shtml

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Response by malcolmnc
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Response by malcolmnc
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Originally on Curbed, the foreclosure auction of a loft is scheduled for next week: http://malcolmcarter.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/luxury-condo-heads-to-foreclosure-auction/

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Response by malcolmnc
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Here are the results of today's estate auction by the city: http://malcolmcarter.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/citys-estate-auction-nets-1-355-million/

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Response by truthskr10
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any results on the lion's head PH auction? had a july 28th date.

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Response by malcolmnc
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I do like to keep on top of auction news, but I'm actually out of town on vacation. So the city auction is the best I have been able to do this week. Sorry.

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Response by malcolmnc
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Response by malcolmnc
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Aug. 18 is the date for the auction of a 1BR UWS apartment: http://wp.me/puZRS-1a1

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Response by julia
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malcommnc...the studio you posted looks nice..what neighborhood is 106th street, manhattan valley, uws??

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Response by julia
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the seller paid $273k and is trying to sell for a profit..i thought auctions were always lower than the original price..not much of a bargain

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Response by malcolmnc
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Response by malcolmnc
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oops. try this link instead: http://wp.me/puZRS-1u7

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Response by malcolmnc
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One is the luckiest number in city's estate auction yesterday: http://malcolmcartersblog.com/

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Response by truthskr10
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Looks like we have our first attempt at a resale, #5 at $1.550
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/551634-condo-127-madison-avenue-midtown-south-new-york

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Response by malcolmnc
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Fascinating. I'll write a post with hardly more detail to appear by 3:30.

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Response by malcolmnc
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Response by truthskr10
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There are always auctions in Queens, even in 2006.

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