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I don't think so falco. they so far have all been the same person.

I am personally happy to see them delete some of these users.

Not at all. I think another police investigation is in order.

Falcogold1...... Maybe I missed someone, but so far, all of the expelled deserved to be expelled. Who specifically do you think didn't deserve it?

Not sure what the standard is, there's a fair amount of harsh language and stalking, etc. Sometimes its completely tolerated and other times the posters get greyed out.

falco, was it jaynecounty?

I think no one should be deleted.

Riversider, can dictionary.com quote you in the "irony" entry?

troll, you left out the wrong letter.

Don't you think?

I've gone back and forth on it. I used to think just ignoring them would make it all go away, but some people (and understandably so in many cases) can't help themselves responding. So something like a 3-strikes policy seems reasonable to me if that's what they're doing. Some other posters contribute very little to the SE community other than insults and irrelevant rants (ie: petrfitz, somewhereelse) and should be given warnings - might help declutter the board a bit.

I think that only this one deranged poster should be disabled. Some inexcusable language and positions by other posters should not be subject to extreme sanctions. And though I am a staunch advocate for privacy issues, I believe that if this one troll -- who is well known to SE-- is in fact in the broker business, he should be outed. There are clearly issues of mental stability with this troll. If he is a broker as he has claimed, it is dangerous for him to be taking hapless victims into empty apartments and apartment buildings. What is the legal responsibility of SE and what is the moral responsibility of those of us who can't deny that this particular troll is in serious need of help from the medical community?

My young niece is out looking for apts. I have made her take a friend with her to every viewing because I'm terrified she will come across this troll. And now I wonder if I have put her friend in harm's way also. This guy is off the charts whacko.

I agree with bjw. There are people who pretend to get upset by this stuff and then engage those posters for 8 pages of threads.

But I disagree with bjw on other posters... Don't confuse people you disagree with Trolls.

Riversider, I have no problem with people I disagree with at times - some are among my favorite posters (aboutready, JuiceMan, even w67th), but there are others (esp the two I named) who just spout vitriol seemingly for sport. You can't tell me you find that stuff particular useful or even beneficial to the SE community?

Apt23, are you sure you have the stomach to live in this town? You're pretty carried away.

one example somewhereelse. I've not noticed a problem.

I understand some posters may use Easy Street to socialize almost like facebook, which I guess is OK, I hope you are being fair to those not on your buddy list.

StreetEasy's entire forum system is horrible, the worse offense (clearly being brought to light) is that people who should be entirely banned (email & IP) are not, and continue to post the same rubbish to the forums every day. If your peers want you gone, then that is how it should be. But all the 'report abuse' seems to do is zilch. If you ask me it's about time they do something, ANYTHING.

Follow that up with zero ability to privately message someone or even have some sort of identity to go along with your name and you have a community of people looking to discuss real estate being brought down by a poor system and a few bad eggs.

There are 'off the shelf' MySQL forums (sorry if I'm getting too techy) that do leaps and bounds more than StreetEasy... and considering that I pay $10 a month to be an insider, it is not only a shame, it's pathetic. StreetEasy is one of the best real estate sites in my opinion, but it seems like it may have peaked too soon and can't keep up with the public's demands.

Riverside, I didn't say ban outright, but point is, when there's cause, I don't think it's a bad idea to just issue a polite warning.

MRussell, totally agree. It's one of the reasons I stopped ponying the $10 a month.

@bjw2103: True, but the access to older apartment information is incredibly useful, especially when I am away from my desk where I would be able to look at my own database. I'll keep paying, but I think I'm going to email StreetEasy (who typically respond and act on my questions) and express my anger with their systems that haven't changed at all for the benefit of their users.

> one example somewhereelse. I've not noticed a problem.

and bjw is guilty of pretty much everything he's accused me of.... including doing so on posts where I actually took time out to post a good deal of data which several folks thanked me for... yet he was spewing venom soon after.

Many of the folks who call for posters to be removed need to first check themselves.

Or, in this case, just need to stop being dishonest about it.

Thanks for the input Seacrest

$10 bucks a month--not worth it.

Trolls, just don't unhide their comments.

People you don't agree with? Just disagree with them.

It's the ranters and ravers that are out of control. The cursing at posters who don't agree. Take them down to Chinatown. They fold real fast when they realize they picked a fight, out of their league.

> Trolls, just don't unhide their comments.

And certainly don't call them out by name and then say "why haven't you responded", and still think you aren't trolling yourself...

"Forget it, Jake -- it's Chinatown."

Chinatown, One of the greatest mvies of all time (top 100)

the sequel, not so good.

swe, obviously you're going to distort the facts. I certainly did not say you should be removed - read carefully. But all you really need to know is that another poster started a thread specifically reserved for you to do your vitriol thing on. If that's not a giant hint...

On a real estate forum where people ask genuine questions about Manhattan real estate we shouldn't have to deal with Trolls.

Why does somewhwerelse need to be threatened or warned, and not other users....

@MRussell: In my experience, the report abuse link works well. I'm judicious about how I use it but I've been happy with responsiveness and I think SE's responses (deleting a comment vs. graying out the poster's account vs. disabling the user's account permanently) have been appropriate and proportional to the offense.

I do agree that SE let things got out of hand a couple of times - the whole hfscomm episode that went on for weeks and ruined a lot of threads and more recently the counties situation that got especially out of control over a weekend and didn't get addressed until Monday - but once they act they have done it decisively.

I'm not so upset about functionality but agree that a private message capability would be a big addition

The decision on who needs to be warned comes across as based on whether they are part of one's social network. BJW, I don't see where you are coming from at all.

Falcogold, i completely disagree. If anything Streeteasy does not exert enough control over the forums. Once you've been banned, your IP should be blocked, so we don't have a repeat county every day. Also, I would just wipe out all comments under a banned handle, not just grey them out. As to the obnoxious, maybe it should be a matter of degree. If 3 people think you suck, well, you're just an interesting person. If 20 people think you suck, maybe your comments go grey for a month, and you can't start a new thread.
You don't have to have saintly participants to eliminate trolls, just have to make it less attractive.
As to the $10, this has nothing to do with the matter at hand. You're not paying for the forums, but for the hard numbers.

"swe, obviously you're going to distort the facts" bjw, I would usually agree with you on this, but in this case I have to defend swe. It is a fact that the sequel to Chinatown is not so good.

I'd be eager to summarily ban people who give prosaic, minimal-content responses to questions, responses that can be found easily from many other sources on the internet, just in the hope of pulling in some business for themselves.

The two jakes, yea not so good.

I'd be eager to summarily ban people who give prosaic, minimal-content responses to questions

Ban everyone!

Riversider, it was only an example - feel free to suggest others. I don't know where you're getting all this "part of one's social network" stuff from. The point is, a couple things could be implemented to help declutter a bit. I'm not going around with a petition with specific people's names on it; you can relax.

sideline, touche. And hilarious.

> Why does somewhwerelse need to be threatened or warned, and not other users....

Obviously, folks are going to complain about the people they disagree with, but the hypocrisy of playing innocent is a bit much, especially when you have some complainers here that have gotten multiple posts deleted by streeteasy...

You know the drill... "let he who hath no sin..."

swe, I agree completely. Some posters even encourage contrary opinion just so they can act hurt.

reminds me of the stat that the people who say they hate howard stern listen to him twice as much as his fans do...

> Some posters even encourage contrary opinion just so they can act hurt.

I laugh when I see folks calling others out by name asking for responses, then complain about the responses...

The poster most complained about has 8 pages a nite of back-and-forth with several people who want him removed. Interesting no?

I find the gray text and midget font immensely effective.
Since first implemented after the original comm sequels, the only time I found any distraction was in the reponder postings to the gray ether, because I value what all my black text full size font colleagues are writing and bother to read only those postings. (except for CC, I'll read those too)

Otherwise just ignore the gray.
Engagement encourages endurance.

riversider---why don't you for once come out and actually say what you mean.

"The poster most complained about has 8 pages a nite of back-and-forth with several people who want him removed. Interesting no?"

highly.

folks want law and order, totally. make the call.
but no hypocrisy.

Riversider, I want to agree, but some of the back-and-forth stuff gets a bit too personal, imho. I don't totally blame ar for responding to it, even if I'm more inclined to ignore.

"Engagement encourages endurance"

Or, to recall the immortal wisdom of alanhart in the midst of the comm days, "No feedy the needy"

what's your point? what exactly is the hypocrisy?

bjw
Can one hand clap?

CC, glad to see your font fully engorged and full of color.

"except for CC, I'll read those too"

... same here, CC is the only trolled poster whom I've ungreyed. I really don't know why SE doesn't just detroll him.

i'm still trying to understand what riversider really means.

^---- Wasn't this account "disabled and deleted" before? Now it's back?

cc, I have no idea either.

speaking of which---would i be exaggerating if i said that i believe that riversider has at least 30% of the total daily posts and starts all threads with a clear intent to provoke? and then at least 50% of riversider's threads have absolutely nothing to do with real estate?

> what's your point? what exactly is the hypocrisy?

It was noted above in an earlier response... folks doing exactly what they're complaining about.

"^---- Wasn't this account "disabled and deleted" before? Now it's back?" No, 'columbiaounty' (intentional mis-spelling by the country troll) was disabled and deleted.

Oh...leave the paperboy alone

properservice, different spelling.

in my opinion no one here has ever come close to reaching the level of hfs and his/her numerous aliases.

"speaking of which---would i be exaggerating if i said that i believe that riversider has at least 30% of the total daily posts and starts all threads with a clear intent to provoke? and then at least 50% of riversider's threads have absolutely nothing to do with real estate?"

Yes, I think you'd be exagerating. Also.

"It was noted above in an earlier response... folks doing exactly what they're complaining about."

So a definition of a word is an example? That makes things easier.

> bjw
> Can one hand clap?

Ha, just got it. Absolutely.

AR - I see, thx....

I think we should put aboutready and alanhart in charge. They love big clunky oppressive 'boot on your throat' government. They can censor for street easy. Only people who are obsequious to them can post.

Odd fantasy, julia. Maybe you should have stayed in rehab a little longer so you'd be less delirious.

"boot on your throat"

Is that a Canadian accent?

Also, aboutready's husband can sue anyone 'the monitors' deem in non-subjective compliance .

I do see that the deleted accounts are all 'phony'....my bad.

Given all the chatter, it indicates just how slow the RE market is!

It's the uncontrollable raging. The spewing of hate and hostility. The comments from someone who is clearly in need of a shrink and meds.

They try to lure others into the cyberspace ring for a fight, and then you can just let them kick themself in their own butt. They do a flame-out face-plant on the canvas. Knock themselves out -- for all to see.

Streeteasy cleans their dust off the floor on Monday morning. Then they come back and act like nothing ever happened.

But, it sure did.

The unusually intelligent, the remarkably insightful , the safe and secure conformists must control and monitor the Street Easy site.
I nominate aboutread, alanhart and after the brilliant post above-- Truth. We need these individuals to sanitize and cleanse the form.

Here you have it...advocacy for big brother.
It's 1984 but, like everything else in this city, it's late.
Orwell was right on the money.
The big surprise is that big brother is not some autocratic regime imposing it's will on the masses.
The masses demand big brother. The masses build big brother themselves.
Surveillance cameras on every street.
Computational computer surveillance of every electronic purchase.
Your whereabouts as indicated by you ez-pass, your metro card, face recognition software.
Electronic medical records.
OUCH! what the heck do I need a micro-chip under my skin for?
Your dog already has that implanted chip (for over 15 years)

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED..............BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING

"and here i was hoping that you had an unfortunate accident with the second avenue bus."

to all previous posters on this subject: what would you suggest doing about this?

See, I find this funny. As long as people refrain from screaming idiot , turd or the like and equally refrain from obsessive compulsive obsessions to posts they claim are offensive. I don't care that much.

so...its funny that hfscomm1 is impersonating me? would it be funny if it were impersonating you? what about the vitriol of hfscomm1's other posts? were those funny?

Well of course rs. You just want to post off-topic threads all day long in peace.

I thought it was hi-f'ng-larious that rs felt compelled to join the counties.

I vote for greying out cc again. And ar, and w67. everyone else is case by case.

Come on have a sense of humor. Don't be such a curmudgeon. I was always curious what county he would be next.

jim hones.
I understand your point of view.

Rs, you look forward to which county he's going to become? Do you memorize zip codes for fun?

Honesy, it is only to our credit that you wish us gone.

Notice how this regime and their political operatives(the media) use these words constantly.

Historic

Unprecedented

Fundamentally

Cc has been convinced at various times that I am hfscomm. Riversider as well. Yet, we're both still here, and that account and the counties is disabled daily.
W67 should be banned for being crude, stupid and his repeated and boring diatribe against anyone in the re industry.
Ar should be banned for being elitist, and a sniggering fool.

Don't ban aboutready. The illiberal left must be exposed. Pleasse keep her around.

crude, honesy?

your a swaggering fool.

Riversider: Don't take the aboutready bait. The whole "us" thing.

Julialg: Please, alanhart is good.

I want nothing to do with aboutready.
She doesn't have the presence of mind to have shame. It was her unfortunate friends that were forced to be embarrassed by her.

The reign of the fire-breathing, vitriol-spewing dragon-banshee is over.

Stick a fork in her -- she's done.

You folks have been putting up with her for years?!
She tries to intimidate you with her attorney husband. Make you afraid that he will sue you, if you dare cross her.

Her husband works for a law firm. He has clients. They would be aghast at her comments posted here.
Stop allowing her to pull that on you.

I have her Sunday melt-down flame-out , printed out. The rest can be had, in discovery.
I have nothing to hide. She has everything to hide, and lose.

My boyfriend could buy and sell her husband -- 20 times over. Stick a fork in her,she is done. She went too far, with the wrong person.

Interesting.

I might sit the rest of this out and just see what transpires among others. This has the potential to be more than the several year fights between somewhereelse and bjw or LICC or stevejhx.

But I am still interested in why kylewest seems to have no shame.
Why columbiacounty's post about someone being hit by a bus is still here.
What in w67thstreet's upbringing could lead him to determine that a mother who killed her 4 kids isn't responsible (and could actually have a kind heart) but that the real estate industry is responsible.
Why apt23 thinks she is a saint when her strategy in a conflict is to call the police and falsely report a felony gun crime by her husband.

Once again to all previous posters....is this ok with you?

Do you really think that Truth is for real? I don't.

is it ok that columbiacounty wants someone to be hit by a bus?

Truth is for real? What does REAL mean? Someone who posted yesterday at the sound check for the Willie Nelson concert at Radio City?

Are you for real when you want someone to be hit by a bus?

I don't like this greying thing at all!
I vote to un-grey jim_hones....ASAP!
Got to have contrary view...

but are you intimidated by my attorney husband, falco? I ask you.

yes, no greying. in or out.

ar, you're outnumbered, give up, find something else to do while you hubby and kid don't pay attention to you.
but seriously, go back and read the threads. see how many times you and cc say the word "fuck". tony montana would be ashamed.
67 talks about azz, penises, and little else.
none of you know ANYTHING about real estate. you've never had any involvement on the business side of it. i provide, in my way, FAR MORE than you ever could dream of. even if it is a contrary view point.

AR, I've met your husband and there are certain arenas that I feel he might intimidate me.
For one....naked Greco-Roman wrestling.
Two...whack-a-mole
Three...focused reading for duration and comprehension.

outnumbered, really? you've done a poll?

how many positive interactions have you had here, honesy? can you count them on one hand or two? people saying thanks, honesy.

do your wife and kid pay attention to you during your rants? and since you ostensibly don't have a lot of time with the kid during the day as you "work" why do you spend your evening hours here?

falco, the focus is slipping rapidly. you may get him there in a couple of months, even. the naked Greco-roman wrestling. I'm still giving him the odds.

but I'm biased.