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Started by spinnaker1
about 15 years ago
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Response by julialg
about 15 years ago
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aboutready is a left wing fraud. She yells sexist and misogynist and all the pc crap. But, when women not on the left are called skanks and whores and witches and bitches, she laughes and belittles. SOUNDS FIMILIAR....

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Response by aboutready
about 15 years ago
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but julialg loves you, so there is that

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Response by aboutready
about 15 years ago
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when have I been yelling anything large one? you seen to be getting a bit hot under the collar. issues?

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Response by julialg
about 15 years ago
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Alan Hart has been engaged with events in the Middle East and their global consequences and terrifying implications – the possibility of a Clash of Civilisations, Judeo-Christian v Islamic, and, along the way, another great turning against the Jews – for nearly 40 years…

◦As a correspondent for ITN’s News At Ten and the BBC’s Panorama programme (covering wars and conflicts wherever they were taking place in the world).
◦As a researcher and author.
◦As a participant at leadership level, working to a Security Council background briefing, in the covert diplomacy of the search for peace.
He’s been to war with the Israelis and the Arabs, but the learning experience he values most, and which he believes gave him rare insight, came from his one-to-one private
conversations over the years with many leaders on both sides of the conflict. With, for example, Golda Meir, Mother Israel,
and Yasser Arafat, Father Palestine. The significance of these private conversations was that they enabled him to be aware of the truth of what leaders really believed and feared as opposed to what they said in public for propaganda and myth-sustaining purposes.

It was because of his special relationships with leaders on both sides that, in 1980, he found himself sucked into the covert diplomacy of conflict resolution…

President Carter had been prevented by Prime Minister Begin from involving
the PLO in the peace process, an opening made possible because Arafat had signalled, secretly and seriously, that he was ready to make peace with an Israel inside more or less its pre-1967 borders. Carter was in despair and said, in private, that events had once again proved that it was impossible to advance the peace process by institutional diplomacy (because of the pork-barrel nature of American politics and the Zionist lobby’s awesome influence). It was then suggested to Alan that he should undertake an unofficial, covert diplomatic mission to get an exploratory dialogue going between Arafat and Peres, with himself initially the linkman. The assumption at the time was that Peres would win Israel’s next election and deny Begin a second term. The initiative was funded by a small number of wealthy British Jews led by Marcus Sieff (the Chairman of Marks and Spencer) with the approval of Lord Victor Rothschild…. It happened and enough progress was made to get Peres and Arafat into public dialogue in the event of Peres winning the 1981 election. Unfortunately, and against all expectations, he did not.

In the course of this mission, Alan learned two things. The first was the truth about
the miracle of Arafat’s leadership – his success in persuading his side (most of it) to be ready for unthinkable compromise with Israel for peace. (Which was why Alan wrote his first book Arafat: Terrorist or Peacemaker). The second was why it is difficult to impossible for any Israeli prime minister, even a rational, well-motivated one, to make peace on any terms the Palestinians can accept.

A decade later, this initiative became the Oslo process, which might have delivered peace if Prime Minister Rabin had not been assassinated by a gut-Zionist.

Alan has long believed that what peacemaking needs above all else is some TRUTH-TELLING, about many things but, especially, the difference between Zionist mythology and real history, and, the difference between Jews and Judaism on the one hand and Zionists and Zionism on the other. (The Zionism of the title and substance of Alan’s latest book is, of course, political Zionism or Jewish nationalism as the creating and sustaining force of the Zionist state, not what could be called the spiritual Zionism of Judaism).

Alan is also credited with having played a leading role in getting the ‘North-South’ issue onto the agenda for political and public debate throughout the Western world and beyond. In 1973, frustrated by the mainstream media’s refusal to come to grips with issues that really matter, he set up his own independent production company (World Focus) to research, film, edit and promote the first ever documentary on the full and true dimensions of global poverty and its implications for all.

The end product, a two-hour film titled FIVE MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT, had its world premiere, hosted by Secretary General Kurt Waldheim, at the formal opening of the 7th Special session of the UN General Assembly, (called to discuss the need for a New World Economic Order); was screened on television in most countries of the North; was versioned for schools in many countries; and became something of a standard work of reference. (The visual impact of the production was supplemented by statistics then new to the world including, for example, the estimate that, in the South, 15 million children under five were dying each year from a combination of malnutrition and easily preventable diseases – in a word, poverty).

To make the project work, Alan, on the strength of his international reputation, raised £1 million in grants from international development institutions and governments and put together a think-tank of world leaders to advise him.

Alan is a fiercely independent thinker. He hates all labels and isms and has never been a member of any political party or group. He prefers to judge issues on their merits. When asked what drives him, he used to say: “I have three children and, when the world falls apart, I want to be able to look them in the eye and say, ‘Don’t blame me. I tried.’” Today he gives an improved answer, one borrowed from a conversation with Dr. Hajo Meyer, a Nazi holocaust survivor and a passionate anti-Zionist. When Alan asked him why he was still campaigning at the age of 82 even though he was being reviled by Zionism, he replied: “The first person I see when I get up in the morning is me.” Alan, too, has to be able to live with himself. He believes that heaven and hell are states of mind. Hell, he says, “is when you know that the end of your life is approaching and that you have not used your talents and resources as well as you could have done to make a difference – i.e. when you realise upon reflection that you have wasted your life. Heaven is contemplation of the approach of death without fear because you know that, on balance, you’ve done your best to make a difference.”

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Response by julialg
about 15 years ago
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arafat, a nobel peace prize for putting bombs into school buses.... You love alanhart... right aboutready?

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Response by lucillemissSE
about 15 years ago
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Lucille, nobody should be using this forum for purely political commentary. it's not the right venue.

ar, thank you. i like and respect you, but that is not your decision to make.

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Response by lucillemissSE
about 15 years ago
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thanks julialg

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Response by julialg
about 15 years ago
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lucille, it's true that i'm an extreme libertarian and quite strongly opinionated. I also don't talk about real estate, but do not post on the real estate threads. I only post on the
political threads or economic threads that are started by someone else.(or threads that evolve into politics) I have been posting for over a year and have been viciously and savagely attack by the 'illiberal left'. If you don't goose step with the left, they call you stupid,idiot,loser,whore,etc.. I really enjoy many people on streeteasy and like the fact that it is a real sample of New Yorkers, not a monolithic political site.

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Response by columbiacounty
about 15 years ago
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Are you nuts?

This was a real estate thread until you changed the subject.

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Response by aboutready
about 15 years ago
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lucille, hit the talk button. what do you see at the top?

"StreetEasy Talk : NYC Real Estate Discussion Boards"

not my decision. this is a real estate board. there are tons of political boards out there. it is troll-like behavior to insert randomly off-topic rants against the "leader of the regime" when people are discussing nothing related to such a rant.

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Response by West81st
about 15 years ago
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Don't feed the trolls.

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Response by Dollarshortdaylate
about 15 years ago
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11 months ago columbiacounty was removed from streeteasy and allowed only to return with default ignored status.
4 months ago, aboutready said farewell and told the community to chase her away if she ever returned. She set up a competing blog that few read, and then returned, still not ready to buy or rent or sell or make any real estate decisions. Streeteasy, in its response to her "farewell" actually requested she stay away for 6 months, "AR is going to take a leave...after commenting more than 12,000 times. Good. Even at the current drivel-spew rate of some it will take a good six months for number two to knock you out of the lead."
We have a man living on west 67th street who repeatedly sexually harasses women and gay men and accuses others of being gay men to harass them on streeteasy, has stated that he has been inappropriately nude around children, and has admitted fraud, unfair business dealings and a litigious past. This week he chased around a high school student so that he could prove that his high school - from which he graduated over 20 years ago, is better. He's also stated that thousands of people have touched his wife, although he dropped that topic.
Definitely West81st, don't feed the trolls.

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