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what should my salary be for a coop?

Started by janejoey
almost 16 years ago
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What should my salary be in order to purchase a manhattan coop listed at $725,000? I have the 35% down, but... Thanks
Response by printer
almost 16 years ago
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It depends on the co-op, of course, but I think they'd want to see the mtge + maintenance cost to be <30% of gross income, and possibly less. They may, and probably do, have a requirement for the amount of liquid assets you would have after making the down payment.

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Response by janejoey
almost 16 years ago
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Maybe I'll make it.
I have a separate question:
If a person wants to remove their name from a coop unit, then does the other person have to show they can afford the whole unit before the other person can be removed? It works that way with houses, I think. Thanks.

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Response by nick
almost 16 years ago
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hi, printer, is the gross income before or after tax? That makes a huge difference

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Response by hejiranyc
almost 16 years ago
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If you assume a mortgage of $471,250, at 5.5% interest for a 30-year fixed + $1000/month maintenance, that comes out to $3750/month. Most coops I've seen require housing expenses to be less than 25% of gross monthly income. Therefore, you need to be making at least $180,000 a year.

I think it is more than likely that the coop will require a secondary review of the financials if one of the leaseholders decides to remove their name from the lease. Yes, it is a coop, but it is still a lease. This would be especially the case in coops that forbid third-party guarantors.

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Response by janejoey
almost 16 years ago
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Hm. This is good info. Thanks.
(gross is before taxes, net is after)

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Response by Wbottom
almost 16 years ago
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in addition to income requirements, coops that i would rate as medium in their scrutiny require that buyers can show liquid assets, in additon to those used for downpayment, that sum to 48 x monthlies (mtge and mntnce)

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Response by janejoey
almost 16 years ago
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Oh ok. I see more now it's reviewed.

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Response by janejoey
over 15 years ago
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What are some of the things that a coop board might do if a person loses their job while in the middle of their lease/mortgage? Can they ask for another person to be put on the unit? What might they ask for? The building is mid-town east by the river.
Thank you

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Response by NWT
over 15 years ago
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If you stop paying your maintenance, the co-op can force a sale of your shares. From the proceeds the co-op will take the maintenance arrears and its legal fees, then the bank takes what it's owed. You get what's left, if anything.

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Response by kylewest
over 15 years ago
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If you don't have the financial wherewithal to weather 6 months out of work (minimum!), you have no business buying. Renting is a better option.

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Response by Sunday
over 15 years ago
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Is 6 months still the standard? I think it should be at least 1 year.

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Response by kylewest
over 15 years ago
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I said minimum 6 months. I personally would never want to have such a thin safety net. What are you going to do if there is an assessment of several thousand dollars to deal with a major facade project, or if the elevators and roof have to be replaced at the same time? Better to ask "How will I make my payments if I lose a job," than the more insane question "What happens if I stop making payments." The latter really shouldn't even be on the list of options. If it has to be, DO NOT BUY.

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Response by janejoey
over 15 years ago
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Actually I know a person who owns a coop and is (unfortunately) experiencing some legal problems. This person may in fact have a lien of nearly 2/3rds the market value of the coop unit put in place against his unit. How would a coop board handle this? The lien goes against the property, not the person, and (from what I know) good luck getting anyone to buy a unit with a lien on it.
btw - Thanks for all the great info. You guys are very knowledgeable.

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