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sign at Fairway market yesterday

Started by GraffitiGrammarian
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A sign on the wall of the produce section at 72nd St. Fairway: Due to unusual freezing conditions in California, there is no cauliflower available. Also, due to extreme weather conditions in other parts of the country, some berries are not available. Is this a sign of climate change (or "climate chaos" as some call it) already beginning to affect our food system? It's happening a bit earlier than they said it would, isn't it? I never saw a sign like that in a market ever, that I can recall.
Response by nyc10023
over 15 years ago
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Never heard of freezes affecting Florida orange supply?

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Response by BoerumHillScott
over 15 years ago
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I've seen signs like that every few years for as long as I can remember.

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Response by marco_m
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sell mortimer sell!!!!!!!!

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Response by stevejhx
over 15 years ago
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If God chooses to freeze-dry cauliflower, or zap it from existence, mankind will not be any the worse off.

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Response by julialg
over 15 years ago
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We really should raise taxes on the wealthy so the old and the children and the poor can have their cauliflower and berries. After all, the rich are causing global warming (o, sorry, climate change) with their greediness,

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Response by Riversider
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I think ths stuff happens, weather varies. It's a stretch to attribute this to global warming or cooling. Just my opinion.

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Response by West81st
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Some of us are old enough to remember not having raspberries in December just because it was December.

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Response by Riversider
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There's actually something nice about seasonal vegetables and fruits. You look forward to them and they taste better. The fruits and vegetables prepared and sold year round are certainly a convenience but something's been lost as well.

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Response by julialg
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Whatever happened to global warming?
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Response by West81st
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Doesn't this discussion belong in the "Anything" category? I think "Sales" refers to sales of real estate, not fruit and vegetables, and definitely not climate change.

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Response by AvUWS
over 15 years ago
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Weather changes?! Seriously? We have always experienced that. It is only that most people suffer from "recency bias" in their memories. If you read a lot of history you know that "climate chaos" is pretty much the norm throughout history. During the American revolution it was the period of the Maunder Minimum. It was normal for rivers in the Northeast to freeze over. We all know that the winter at Valley Forge was considered a particularly brutal one. That doesn't mean all was always cooler. During the Battle of Monmouth the next summer temperatures are thought to have reached 104 degrees, a factor that probably helped the cotton-clad Americans agains the wool-clad Brits (or Scots? Hessians?)

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Response by nyc_sport
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Also a bit of a funny concept. Cauliflower does not need warmth. Maybe freezing interferes with its early growth. You can go to the North Fork of Long Island right now and get all of the cauliflower anyone could want.

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Response by evnyc
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Darn. I love cauliflower.

Problem with the recency bias theory, AVUWS, is that climate change science is not based on memory. It's based on temperatures that have been tracked in multiple locations worldwide over centuries, as well as a bunch of other data. In England some of those records go back to the 17th century. So yes, there's always been weather pattern variations, but they are accounted for in the data. The evidence is quite clear that temperatures have been rising *rapidly* in very recent history.

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Response by nyc10023
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Graffitti: as NYC has pointed out, local cauliflower was still available last weekend. I buy seasonal at the UWS greenmarkets, Union Square if I can make it down there.

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Response by julialg
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Since 1995 temperatures are flat. That's why global warming has morphed into climate change.

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Response by front_porch
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It's winter for heaven's sake. When God closes a door on cauliflower, he/she opens a window on parsnips.

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Response by UESlover
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Global warming is done. Stick a fork in it already. Check out Wattsupwiththat.com or Climatedepot.com

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