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Information on Potential NYC Housing Project Sites

Started by clt89
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Is there a source for potential housing developments planned by the city? Similarly, if NYCHA owns a contiguous group of 5-6 story walkup apartment buildings, what would be the probability of those buildings being torn down in order to build up as high as possible?
Response by alanhart
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Near zero. When was the last time NYCHA built a high-rise housing project? 1970s?

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Response by jason10006
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Huh? There are new city-sponsored buildings going up all over Harlem. Now. Rent-stabalized.

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Response by jason10006
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They may not be NYCHA per se, but they are subsidized by the city, and say so on the signs...

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Response by sjtmd
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The term "project" is misleading - the City of NY is constantly acquiring real estate and converting into subsidized housing.

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Response by alanhart
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Those were not planned by the City, but rather WITH the City. RS (and partially RS, which is what those are) are radically different from NYCHA projects in every way, and "subsidized" by tax breaks and loan underwriting/guarantees. By that measure, all the 80/20 buildings on Sixth Ave. in Chelsea, etc., are "projects".

And as for NYCHA low-rises being redeveloped higher, I'm not aware of that happening ever.

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Response by jason10006
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Well, I would guess TOP would object to living near a 100% rent-stabalized apt with low-income people subsidized by the city about as much as living next to projects.

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Response by alanhart
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My guess is that OP's main concern is having views cut off by said redevelopment, not living near subsidized people. And I'm not aware of any recent new construction that's 100% rent-stabilized anyway. I suppose the version of 80/20 that allowed the 20% to be developed off-site would explain that ... just not aware of any (in Manhattan, anyway)

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Response by clt89
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When one notices a large cluster of contiguous small buildings owned by NYCHA, it doesn't seem far-fetched to think that, at some point, a parcel like that couldn't be used for a high rise. But it is good to hear that this does not seem to ever happen. Buildings like that permanently impair neighborhoods in my opinion. Much different that small, basically attractive townhouse style housing. It isn't about low income per se.

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Response by nicercatch
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williamsburg? (kidding)

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Response by notadmin
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imho NYCHA is more likely to have to demolish tall buildings (like all other cities have done) than building more of those. they have massive repair needs and the $ is just not there. i'd expect the program to shrink, along with section 8 due to the budget issues (less funding is coming from HUD and from state/city gov for these 2 programs).

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Response by newaccount
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What is the useful life of an NYCHA building?

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Response by clt89
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The term "project" is misleading - the City of NY is constantly acquiring real estate and converting into subsidized housing."

How would one go about searching purchases that the NYCHA authority has made or is planning to make? How does this process work? Do they just make offers to owners at market prices? Are there ever "eminent domain" type purchases? Or is it as alanhart has mentioned and buildings these days are developed WITH the city rather than the City becoming the landlord?

Also, are there any examples of NYCHA house reverting to private ownership?

Sorry. lots of questions.

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Response by pulaski
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Response by alanhart
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Oh. I thought we were talking about housing projects in New York.

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Response by pulaski
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zing.... :)

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Response by Wbottom
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oh you mean

Hunters Point South—the 5,000-unit middle-class utopia planned on the barren city-owned land next to all those glassy new Queens West towers

with 60% of the apartments reserved for households making between $63,000 and $130,000

likely government employees and union workers, no?

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Response by sjtmd
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If there is a spot in Chelsea welcoming to new affordable housing, city officials have yet to find it.
Residents want a park rather than new affordable housing where a two-story Sanitation Department building and adjacent parking lot now stand. I guess, any city owned land could potentially be a NYC housing project.

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/01/13/chelsea_residents_take_park_fight_signs_to_board_throwdown.php#more

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Response by pulaski
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"Hunters Point South—the 5,000-unit middle-class utopia" - is there middle-class left in NY?

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Response by jason10006
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Alanhart, there are DEFINITELY 100% rent stabilized bldgs built in the last 5 years in Harlem. They may in fact be part of other building's 20% (or in some cases 50%) affordable housing requirement, but still they exist - see 116th/5th for two examples (east of 5th), another at 119th/5th, and one going up on 102nd/2nd.

These are all like 8-10 stories.

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