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225 West 83rd Street

Started by newbuyer99
about 15 years ago
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Curious on people's views on this apartment - pros and cons, layout building, neighborhood, etc. Especially since I know we have a few UWS family-sized apt experts on these boards. Thanks in advance. http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/518185-condo-225-west-83rd-street-upper-west-side-new-york
Response by West81st
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2008

What the Bromley lacks in charm, it might make up in family-friendliness. Our kids bum playdates there at every opportunity, because they love the pool. Plus, you're across the street from CMOM, a block from the movies (easier to make those cheap morning screenings), three blocks from PS9/Center and five blocks from AMNH.

I'll never be a fan, but I understand the appeal.

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Response by front_porch
about 15 years ago
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We just did a rental deal in the Bromley this past summer... the building seemed great about service, security, and our client's renovation. The pool was briefly out for cleaning, but came back up within a reasonable amount of time.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by nyc10023
about 15 years ago
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newbuyer: I can't post this publicly, but I can say more off-line if you post an email where you can be reached.

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Response by newbuyer99
about 15 years ago
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NYC10023 - very interested in hearing more, but would rather not post an email address here. Do you have one you're not shy about sharing here, or an "anonymous" one you use? If not, I can try to figure out how to do the "anonymous" one.

Others - any more opinions on the apartment beyond just the building? Views on asking price?

Thanks.

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Response by West81st
about 15 years ago
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newbuyer99: If you like a split layout (kids/guests in one wing, master BR completely separate), with the kitchen as the hub, the plan flows reasonable well. On the downside, rooms at the Bromley are not of grand scale for example, twelve feet is a narrow living room, especially since you have to keep a path clear for terrace access.

$2.8MM seems like a lot of money for the third floor of a building where sales above $2MM are rare. In any building, $1400+/SF is quite steep for a low-floor apartment with no views, although the renovation and outdoor space carry some weight. I think the clering price might be a little above the midpoint between the 2005 basis ($1.84MM) and the curent ask.

I'll leave it to nyc10023 to brief you on the owners.

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Response by inonada
about 15 years ago
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"If not, I can try to figure out how to do the "anonymous" one."

I'm biting my tongue here to stay polite. Go to Yahoo or Gmail, open an account with the name newbuyer99_streeteasy, and post that email address. To not have spammers pick it up, write it here as: "newbuyer 99 _ streeteasy at yahoo dot com", but with no spaces.

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Response by huntersburg
about 15 years ago
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Don't bite your tonggue. Jason10006 bit his tongue and that didn't work out well.

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Response by bramstar
about 15 years ago
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Member since: May 2008

The unit's overpriced, without a doubt. I'm never wild about low floor units--noise can be a real problem and there's never much light. Also, I dislike the 'railroad' layout here--long, narrow rooms with windows at one end can feel claustrophobic (the DR and MBR are particularly bad, IMO).

I'm also not crazy about having a bedroom flanking the LR--what happens if you're having a grown-ups party and your kid can't (or won't) go to sleep because of the noise? Or, you want to settle in for a nice movie and popcorn but have to keep the volume low so it won't wake up the baby?

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Response by West81st
about 15 years ago
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Good points, bramstar. One small benefit of the long DR is that it can do double-duty, with a dining area adjoining the kitchen and a music/family area by the window. Not ideal, but at least the space isn't wasted.

Sorry about the multiple typos in my earlier post. The bottom line here is that the owners are still seeking a peak-ish price for an apartment with the kind of flaws that buyers seems to be punishing severely at the moment. Their main hope might be that somebody loves the building, needs three bedrooms and attaches significant value to the outdoor space..

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Response by nyc10023
about 15 years ago
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W81: the price wasn't the barrier.

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Response by newbuyer99
about 15 years ago
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nyc10023 - what do you mean - price wasn't the barrier? As for the owners, I googled them, so I guess I do know anything that's "public" on the internet. inonada is right, it's easy to set up an anonymous email account, I'll do that tomorrow.

West 81st - interesting that you say "the owners are still seeking a peak-ish price for an apartment with the kind of flaws that buyers seems to be punishing severely at the moment" and yet "I think the clering price might be a little above the midpoint between the 2005 basis ($1.84MM) and the curent ask" which would be around $2.4MM - still quite a lot, no?

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Response by West81st
about 15 years ago
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newbuyer99 - Hard to say. $2.4MM is a lot of money, and this market sector certainly isn't up 30% since 2005. On the other hand, if the current owners did the combination and renovation, then the cost of the two separate units in 2005 may not be very illuminating.

In the $2-2.5MM range, a 3BR buyer who wants to be between 72nd and 86th doesn't have an abundance of better options at the moment.

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Response by newbuyer99
about 15 years ago
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Yeah, that makes sense about the lack of options on the UWS.

They didn't do the combination - even thought the purchases are listed separately, the apartment was already combined when they bought. I agree they should get some credit for the renovation, tough to tell exactly how much.

nyc10023 - you can email me at newbuyer99@yahoo.com. Thanks.

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Response by newbuyer99
about 15 years ago
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Resurrecting this thread... how would you estimate the square footage of the interior space? Thanks.

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Response by newbuyer99
over 14 years ago
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Ok, so it's in contract. Wife and I are heartbroken - we figured it would still be on the market when we finally decide to pull the trigger on a Manhattan RE purchase in 2014. Only half kidding.

So, any guesses how much it sold for? I am going to guess $2.325MM. Anyone else?

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