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Bathroom Tiles -- non-toxic adhesive

Started by birdier
about 15 years ago
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Before choosing tiles, thought it would be best to decide first on a non-toxic, no or low outgassing adhesive to affix them on painted wallboard in bathroom. In other words, my decision on adhesive will dictate my range of options on the tile selection. Are there any brands that you can recommend for the chemically-sensitve?
Response by NWT
about 15 years ago
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Don't use painted wallboard. It should be cement board. Otherwise water will get through the tile and mold will feast on the wallboard.

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Response by flarf
about 15 years ago
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If you're tiling a wall in your bathroom that isn't exposed to water (i.e. outside the bath/shower, such as next to the toilet) then drywall is fine. There's no need to have an entire bathroom covered with cement board. I would knock down the existing paint with some sandpaper first though. It doesn't have to be sanded completely off, but should be roughed up enough so that it's no longer shiny.

As far as your original question, why not use thin set?

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Response by leee
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Response by NYCMatt
about 15 years ago
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Too much is being made of this "outgassing" silliness. The gasses dissipate after a week or so. It's not like radioactive material, where it *radiates* toxins over the course of its life.

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Response by mike10005
about 15 years ago
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Agreed with NYCMatt. Gas will dissipate after a week MAX, most likely within first 3 days after applying the adhesive.

When you stay at Four Seasons, can you smell the adhesive gas in the bathroom? or develop any allergic reaction to the bathroom tiles in your room?

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Response by NYCMatt
about 15 years ago
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EVERYTHING is toxic to some degree. Some people even go to extraordinary lengths to find "low outgassing" furniture!

The irony here is that these same people use computers and laser printers that "outgas" toxins at many hundreds of thousands of times greater than their paint, carpets, sofa, or the glue behind their bathroom tiles.

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Response by alanhart
about 15 years ago
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What kind of "adhesive" is used for tiles? I thought it's just an old-fashioned thinset/mortar type of thing that's been around at least since Roman times.

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Response by kylewest
about 15 years ago
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There's a lot to sweat in life. So long as you aren't eating the adhesive, I wouldn't focus too much on this.

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Response by rivas77
about 15 years ago
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mastic is adhesive for tiles, but i think most people use thinset esp for wet areas

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Response by spinnaker1
about 15 years ago
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Use cement board and thinset mortar for wet areas around showers and tubs. I would continue this throughout the entire bathroom if you are installing floor to ceiling tiles. If no floor to ceiling tile use moisture resistant green board for the rest. You can use mastic on drywall for things like kitchen backsplash.

I'm with matt and the others and tend to worry more about what I'm breathing outside my apartment.

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Response by alanhart
about 15 years ago
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I thought mastic is for commercial vinyl tiles, not ceramic or stone. Go figure.

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Response by spinnaker1
about 15 years ago
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Mastic can be used for anything. They make a waterproof and mold resistant mastic for baths and showers too.. I've ripped apart a few bathrooms that used green board and mastic behind bath and shower tile and they were solid. I've also ripped apart some that you could push your finger through. As far as I'm concerned the right way is cement board, a schluter type membrane and thinset, but that's me and I'm not a pro so take it for what its worth.

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Response by birdier
about 15 years ago
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These are all perceptive comments; thanks to all. I've learned a lot.

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