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# of stalled project in Brooklyn on the rise !

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Stalled project in Williamsburg & Greenpoint up 44% since 2009 It also comprised 46 percent of the city's total stalled sites. http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/53956523
Response by huntersburg
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bjw, you are losing the fight

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Response by mutombonyc
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falcogold1,

After a good rain, you smell like a wet dog.

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Response by huntersburg
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mutombo, can you reference the original dispute you and bjw have?

I have no judgments, but like many here, no perspective on you v bjw.

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Response by bjw2103
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hburg, I'm not sure there is an original dispute. The guy's clearly deranged and has been coming after me (often with loads of gibberish and questionable syntax - English does not appear to be his native tongue), unprovoked, for a while now. He fears anything even remotely resembling a non-"negative" comment about Williamsburg, and is almost certainly a troll. What can you do? Ultimately, I don't really care about any "fights" - I'd rather he just recede into the depths of the interweb, or, if he genuinely gave a sh!t about discussing real estate, would at least try not to act like such a jackass. Some people think you're a troll as well - I don't know. I guess we could all clean up our posting a bit, but it gets tougher to bite your tongue when some people are just so nasty/mean-spirited/outright moronic. End rant.

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Response by columbiacounty
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Bjw...you don't think that hfscomm1 is the troll?

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Response by mutombonyc
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While bjw2103, has one finger pointed at me, and all other people he dislikes on SE, he has 3 fingers pointed at himself, do the math. bjw2103, is clearly unclassy. This guy, has been caught in so many lies it's not funny. bjw2103, tries to intimidate people via his "ivy degree," but his failed attempts at intimidating people has been unsuccessful. This guy, likes to call people a jackass, but look at his behavior, very jackass-ish. No human being should be provoked as easily as bjw2103 is, which clearly shows he has no self-control. You have been involved in too many fights not to "really" care about fights, 'really' an implication you do have some concern, LOL. You rather I recede into the depths of the interweb not to call you out on being the hypocrite you are and distrub your spirit, you will justify your position with a lie, anyway. You are talking about people being nasty/mean-spirited/outright moronic, and you say the things you do? You and your mother deranged because you are a class act, LOL. bjw2103, as I told you before, I have your number. Your a snake, a liar and I don't trust you. Whenever a post pertains to W'Burg, there you got saying the post untrue. bjw2103, you need to take a a serious look at yourself, because you a laden with agenda, lies and you are too old for the shit you involve yourself in. The entire SE not after you. Stay classy by taking your own advice!

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

An ass and thinks he is royalty! Your a peasant.

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Response by huntersburg
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mutombo ??

So the guy lives in Williamsburg, and he tells people it's a nice place to live. Doesn't seem like a stretch to me that someone likes where he lives and recommends it to others, right?

Honestly, I'd rather live in Williamsburg than Columbia County, NY, which isn't even commutable to here. Recently there was a New York Times article about some guy who moved from Columbia County, NY to some desert location out west and lives alone. He's friends with a cow. Go figure.

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Response by huntersburg
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I couldn't find that article so quickly, but here's the type of stuff that goes on in Columbia County:

http://www.wrdw.com/home/headlines/51609762.html "No animal cruelty charges in Columbia County fatal cow beating"

or http://www.columbiacountyobserver.com/master_files/County_News/10_0902-courthouse-cow-dung-display-it-is-time-to-disinfect.html

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Response by mutombonyc
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h'burg,

You are missing the point. The OP link provides stats, which bjw2103, damn near proscribed, as if it's driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics. There has been articles that bjw2103, "misinterpreted." His position, boils down to fitting his agenda to where he lives. Is W'Burg a nice hood, yes; should he recommend his hood to others, yes. But, to repudiate all stats conducted on his hood is low. We all know the R.E. debacle has hit numerous hoods in a positive and negative way. bjw2103, too bombast for me!

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Response by sledgehammer
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H'burg,
Mutombo's last post is right on ! BJW talks a lot outta his ass. Read the Bed stuy thread! It's hilarious to see him getting the Jungle fever over a neighborhood he never set foot in! I posted a multitude of facts showing how shitty the hood was and the best he found to slander my factual opinions about Bed Stuy was to call me a racist because i used the words High criminality, no civism and black ghetto in the same post. I known every corner of Bed Stuy and know what i'm talking about. And i think i provided enough links to support my points and convince some sceptics who didn't want to take my word for granted.

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Response by huntersburg
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>BJW talks a lot outta his ass.

I used to think that was a unique talent, but then I met this hairy ape guy on west 67th street. Who would have thought that two beings (one person in Brooklyn, one ape in Manhattan) in this small city could talk out of their asses.

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Response by mutombonyc
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"High criminality, no civism and black ghetto in the same post."

This does not imply being a racist, I say the same thing and I'm black; does that make me a racist?

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Response by mutombonyc
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h'burg,

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/12808-city-to-turn-unsoldstalled-condos-into-affordable-housing-willamsburg

Read the the article, the OP comment then read bjw2103 first comment, and he is an Ivy graduate. bjw2103 is literate, but can he comprehend? bjw2103, clearly digressed into his own agenda, so typical of him. I can't make this up, LOL.

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Response by mutombonyc
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h'burg,

bjw2103 and I have been discussing this matter since 2008/2009. According to bjw2103, W'Burg is the best R.E. market in the free world. His inventory of units coming to W'Burg is a toilet bowl full of shit.

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Response by bjw2103
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sledge, it sure is convenient for your "arguments" to claim I've "never set foot" in Bed Stuy, but that's just bullsh!t on your part (or "talking out your ass", if you prefer - between you, 'tomboy, and bottoms, there's a theme going on here re: rear end obsession). If you think that claiming Bed Stuy residents lack education, are not productive nor civil human beings (which is exactly what was claimed on that thread) is somehow not racist, you're probably a lost cause. And I'm not even getting into how I pulled quotes from your own articles that countered your claims.

'tomboy, your stalking me is officially uber-creepy.

cc, I know hfs is a troll. I know you're convinced hburg is the same troll. Clearly he's done enough to offend the SE powers-that-be and is greyed out. I don't care enough to worry if they're one and the same - I care more that the board clean itself up a bit, though it's clear that it'll always draw some unfortunate characters, unfortunately.

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Response by w67thstreet
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2.2k open houses. Does not bode well for bburg. Nor manhattan nor USA. Nor trolls.

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Response by huntersburg
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I'm huntersburg

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Response by mutombonyc
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blowjobwillie,

If you think I'm stalking, you are delusional. You have to be prescribed meds to control your warped mind; and don't the meds as prescribed; you have more outburst than All My Children has episodes.

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Response by Wbottom
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oh no...
here comes another one of bj's hearfelt "proper behavior on this thread" posts!!
i thought we were due for one soon

she wheels these out from time to time after windbagging around on any variety of subjects, with the usual uselessness, combined with insult etc.

and re hburg, you two have bonded up nicely, bj--given your lonely position, and his willingness to watch your back--and now you want to disavow him? your relationship with hburg resembles your relationship with ideas--random, based on whatever runin you are running at any given time

mow tell us how all those you differ with are so poorly behaved--throw in a comment or two about their assholes for effect

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Response by bjw2103
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Bottoms, you ninny, it's remarkable that between you and 'tomboy, there have been 40+ posts complaining and whining about me. You guys sure care a LOT. Thanks for that.

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Response by bjw2103
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And not a single post adding anything substantive to the discussion, of course.

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

While you have one finger pointed at everyone else, you have three fingers pointed at yourself. Stay classy!

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Response by Wbottom
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i thought what i offered previously, as shown below, was quite substantive, astute, in fact

"big prob with the burg is that so much has yet to be developed--if they ever clear all the shlt built and/or stalled, there'll be tons more fresh supply built/coming on line"

not flowery, but quite to the point, no?

funny, you got all hissy-panted when several posts of this ilk appeared...go figure

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Response by bjw2103
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'cept you haven't offered a shred of evidence to back such a claim. It's not hard to make such grand statements, but they're "useless" if they're just off-the-cuff comments. You can ignore anything that proves you're off and call it "hissy-panted" but it don't make you right. Sorry toots.

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

You offered a nano second of evidence to support your claim? Exactly, you did not! Take your own advice Dr. Phil!

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Response by Wbottom
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im an every man/woman for him/herself kinda guy--but the dr. phil (philippa?) thing hits speaks well of bj--volumes of evidence of that

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Response by bjw2103
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Still talking about me? Garsh, you guys should start a fan club or something. I'll sign the posters, promise.

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Response by Wbottom
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there's no one who talks about you more than you

you are your own lonely fan club

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Response by bjw2103
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Kidding, right? I mean, this and how many other threads to the contrary? This thread was about real estate until you two decided to troll. Watch - you or 'tomboy will inevitably whine about me yet again.

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Response by Wbottom
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there you go again claiming you are whined about, trolled--makes you feel like you matter

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Response by bjw2103
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Like friggin' clockwork, bottoms. It is to laugh.

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

This discussion was about R.E. until you lied and polluted the thread with your contention, LOL. Wanna get back on track? It's all up to you!

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Response by bjw2103
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Was only a matter of time.

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Response by mutombonyc
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As it was for you a matter of time! Take your own advice!

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

For you to live by! LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br-Dy3puDoc

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Response by huntersburg
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bjw, I can't speak to the merits of your dispute with mutombonyc - I don't know the details. But the fact that now Wbuttocks is questioning your sex and sexuality.... you've hit bottom, no pun intended. It would help if you actually could defend a point of view, had a real argument, not have problems with people cheering the death of Osama bin Laden, and be a man (or be a woman). Grown man (or woman).

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Response by mutombonyc
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Response by bjw2103
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'tomboy, from that thread:

"By the end of 2010 4,000+ units are expected to enter the market in W'Burg."

Whoops.

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

Your an ass! You said your account of inventory included south of Broadway, there is clearly an addition, listen to the hipocrisy* from bjw2103, streeteasy!

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Response by mutombonyc
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Lets get to the gist of bjw2103, cascade of lies and agendas:

bjw2103,

Has been caught in another case of fabrication, as he often misinterpret facts, he posted the info below:

1 Northside Piers = ~50 units left
2 Northside Piers = 270 (don't think anything's in contract)
The Edge = ~475 (tough to know exactly, given limited info)
125 N10th = ~45
20 Bayard = 21
268 Wythe = 12
Warehouse 11 = ~100 (??), unclear what will happen
80 Met = ~70
Ikon = ~12
101 N5th = 7
Rialto = 11 left
129 Met = ~10 left
111 Kent = 63
14 Hope = 20
Aurora = 2
Aqua = 3
229 North 8 = ~50
90 North 5 = ~8
North 8 = 3
Sevenberry = 4
Mill Building = 3
218 N8th = 3
136 Met = 9
349 Met = 21 (??)

"Quick tally of "northside" condos that are currently available, or in a state of completion that should put them on the market in the next year or so (I'm sure I've missed a smaller development here and there, feel free to add):"

The media states W'Burg and not just N W'Burg why do bjw2103, continually, isolate the entire neighborhood? The templated numbers posted by bjw2103 in regards to units in W'Burg are false and way off as his template only includes N W'Burg.

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Response by mutombonyc
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Let the jury have there say! bjw2103, you are unclever.

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Response by bjw2103
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'tomboy, why post a clearly outdated list that's almost 2 years old? Again, here is the updated list. And yes, it includes buildings on the southside, in south 'burg, as well as east 'burg. I even added a few more rentals I came across. So much for those 4,000 additional units.

NSP2 = ~135
The Edge = ~280
135 North 11th = 20
58 Met = 20 (not sure about this - anyone know more?)
80 Met = 12
144 North 8th = 41
205 North 8th = 9
90 North 5th = 4
170 North 5th = 18
415 Leonard = 2
50 Bayard = 2
46 South 2nd = 15
251 South 3rd = 4
29 South 3rd = 2
66 North 1st = 2
Mill Building = 2
NSP1 = 5
91 Met (formerly 268 Wythe) = 5
120 South 4th = 18 (unclear what’s going on here, haven’t checked in a while)
Several buildings with 1 unit = ~10-20

For those who insist on adding supply east of BQE or below the bridge, here’s the major stuff I can track down:
139 Skillman = 16
365 Union = 14
63 Jackson = 2
The Gretsch = 3
Schaefer Landing = 7

New rental buildings worth noting:
175 Kent = 113
111 Kent = 62
136 Met = 9
250 Bedford / 197 Berry = ??
641 Driggs = ??
110 Broadway = 39
205 North 9th = 211

Some buildings with unclear outcomes:
Urban Green = 44 (all were in contract at one point)
52 North 1st = 41 (been stalled for years)
76 North 4th (was going to be conversion, but totally died)

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

I'm going to get you :-)! Your inventory was "outdated" ahem inaccurate when released for dissemination to SE, because of your segmentation agenda. You either get it or you don't, I will go with the first, you get it! Inorder, to flip stats and facts they way you do, you have to completely understand and agree with the findings, but due to your agenda your a naysayer. Imagine a tester, answering every question incorrectly, they would have known every question correctly to answer each and every single question incorrectly, making them a liar.

When the said 10,000 units were coming online to W'Burg, which was a hyperbole; you rejected that amount of units coming online to W'Burg; and created your inventory of units coming online to W'Burg. In your initial inventory, which I copied and pasted to this discussion; you tried to pass 1,400 units as coming online to the entire W'Burg; but all of the units listed are located on the NS W'Burg; which was not the topic of contention; but the segmentation of your agenda.

Why would you purposely miscount units coming online to the entire W'Burg? I would take it, most, if not all, of the units tallied in your original inventory are within a mile of the dwelling you reside, NS W'Burg. When reporting, you have the due diligence to report accurately.

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Response by bjw2103
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mutombo, the latest list does not segment. I originally focused on the northside because I believed (and still do to a large extent) that most buyers interested in Williamsburg typically look at the northside first. I think it's a fair point to ask that other areas be included. So I added them. So the list should now be more "accurate," even for you. And again, if you have buildings to add that I missed, please add them. That said, you can see that there actually isn't nearly the same levels of inventory below the bridge or east of the BQE.

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

Thank you for being honest! :-)

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Response by mutombonyc
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bjw2103,

Please remember, the NS not the entire W'Burg, which I know, you are aware of. I remember my mother saying, pennies equal dollars. I am aware of segmentation in a market, and I'm aware of a holistic market, also. South of Broadway and the BQE, don't have mega complexes as NS waterfront does; but these sections of W'Burg do have developments that add inventory to your initial tally of units coming online two years ago. Have units been occupied, yes, and more buildings have been erected too. One day this war will end, but when?

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Response by bjw2103
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mutombo, what south 'burg developments are you thinking of? The ones I have up there are Schaefer, Gretsch, and 110 Broadway (rental). There's also Zazza, which is fully rented.

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Response by mutombonyc
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???

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Response by sledgehammer
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How convenient for you BJW to erase Southside from Williamsburg to manipulate inventory!

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Response by mutombonyc
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sledgehammer,

bjw2103, did not erase SS W'Burg to manipulate inventory; he did not include SS W'Burg and greter W'Burg in his initial inventory to manipulate totals. He did make amendments to his inventory, eventually. I don't believe any of us SE'er would ever account for 100% of units coming online to W'Burg. I do give bjw2103 credit for creating an updated list; but his initial inventory was created to be demerited, as if it were a strawman, as the inventory did not account for units coming online to the entire W'Burg, which was the basis of the claim and his inventory; that only accounted for units coming online to NS W'Burg.

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Response by bjw2103
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sledge, how convenient of you not to read properly!

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