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because that is just how lawyers are. A nice person could never make it as a lawyer.

The same reason why when you hire a real estate agent and pay them to perform a job for which they get paid obscene money and *they* have bad attitudes and act as if you're bothering them.

So you feel this is normal I think it's rude and they need to be confronted about there behavior. Remember you are the consumer. They need to loose the bad attitudes.

It sounds like you picked the wrong lawyer...there are plenty of jerk-off lawyers but also plenty of lousy real estate brokers, doctors, financial advisors-- you name it.

Are you by any chance asking your lawyer an endless series of random and not very well thought-out questions?

His job is to keep you out of legal trouble, not to provide financial and life-planning advice.

Also, if you're pursuing an HDFC, you really need to search for a good attorney who knows the ins-and-outs of HDFCs, but has no connections to them that would cause conflicts of interest.

Alanhart I keep my questions to the point and am not asking for any other advice except, he got an attitude when I asked him the same question more then once during a conversation, Sorry dude If I want to make sure you know what the hell your talking about plus excuse me I'm the one flipping your bill,loose the attitude.

Two thoughts:

1. Answering the same dumb question twice in a single conversation is not confirmation this person knows what they are talking about.

2. TX - you are looking to buy in a govt subsidized building, right? This requires specialized knowledge / experience. Did you interview multiple lawyers to find someone with experience with these types of transactions or did you just dial 1-888-LAWYERS?

Txredrider: Maybe he was bothered by how inarticulate, rude and dense you are. Just a guess.

Yes I interviewed many lawyers in this field and he had also worked with a couple of friends same housing situation. I was thinking maybe he had a bad weekend or something. My question I asked was not dumb he just thought I asked it to many times, he had more important things to do then answer my question 5 times which it wasn't 5 times and if it were so be it.

txredrider:

People in NYC are ruder than people in Texas because people in Texas own
guns. I own and rent in both places and the differences in attitude and
behavior are substantial.

Hold to your position: you are 100$ correct.

out of curiosity, what was the question?

Pawn_harvester no question just venting. Midtowner East your rude.

taximan: you are an idjiot.

This may be your issue - your lawyer is not paid to listen to you vent and respond (that is your husband's, boyfriend's or therapist's job). Was it a question or was it just venting?

txrerider, reading your recent posts it certainly didn't seem as though you had an accepted offer situation yet. have you actually retained this attorney or are you just trying to get free info and pass your efforts off as an initial consult/interview process?

I was not venting to my lawyer I was asking a question concerning the bylaws .Offer just accepted and retained this lawyer weeks ago.

I have lawyers in the family, and I'm on Tx's side on this one. Real estate attys in this town are often not very good at answering questions. That's one reason to celebrate when you find a patient one.

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rb345 -- I think txredrider has found himself a dumb companion to converse with. If only you were a lawyer ...

Let me see if I follow your impeccable logic. People in Texas own guns, so that means other people in Texas (presumably non-gun owners) are nice to them so they won't get shot? Assuming that the homicidal tendencies of one group leads to civility from the other group -- and that is one dubious basis for a society -- what about other gun owners? Wouldn't they be apt to be rude to other people on the assumption that their guns are bigger (insert Congressman Weiner joke here) or that they shoot faster? Plus, if everyone owns guns, then nobody should be afraid of being rude/shot because they could always outgun the other person.

I have lived outside New York and I have found NYers to be perfectly civil, especially after you get to know them. The "niceness" that people exude outside NY (and other big cities) is often just a cover for their inner rudeness. With NYers, their outer rudeness (or brusqueness) often covers an inner kindness. It reminds me of a cartoon I once saw. It had two panels, one said "NY" and the other said "LA." In the LA panel, the person was saying "Have a nice day" and thinking "fuck you." In the NY panel, the person was saying "Fuck you" and thinking "have a nice day." Pretty dead on.

Just received an email in which my lawyer said the tone of our conversation was not very professional. In other words just rude when answering a question to your client. As I said earlier we are the consumers and should not put up with bad behavior especially at these rates.

I found the cartoon. Apparently, it is "drop dead" instead of "fuck you," but the point is the same:

http://slithytove.com/media/pictures/callahan.jpg

Just like in any industry, there are people who are good at their job and people who aren’t

Thanks for that MidtownerEast.

what attorneys do u like?

Taliya Bashani. She is amazing, very responsive and always has a positive attitude. Tali@tablawfirm.com

thanks. never heard of her

" Assuming that the homicidal tendencies of one group leads to civility from the other group "

" Plus, if everyone owns guns, then nobody should be afraid of being rude/shot because they could always outgun the other person. "

holy.mother.of.god.

"The "niceness" that people exude outside NY (and other big cities) is often just a cover for their inner rudeness."

also called MANNERS and civility

"With NYers, their outer rudeness (or brusqueness) often covers an inner kindness."

i am......at a complete loss for words

no, lucille, clearly you are not.

Txredrider, the lawyer is an ass, find another one.

lucillebluth, you need to spend some time west of the Delaware. It's not manners or civility, it's robotic posturing, similar to the scripted friendliness you'll hear at your Wetson's drive-through ordering station. And gods forbid you should ever try to engage conversation beyond "Dude!"

the problem (one of many) with real estate attorneys is that you retain them for the transaction. the attorney has little incentive to repeat answers to your questions (although you might very well disagree with his/her need to) because he/she is not being paid by the hour. by industry standards attorneys handling personal real estate deals are not very highly compensated. and real estate transactions are relatively boring unless the parties become confrontational, in which case it's just a PITA. given these factors the best and the brightest are rarely attracted to this area of law.

getting rid of an attorney once you have retained them is not that easy, unless the retention agreement specifically indicates what you'll pay if you don't use the full scope of the services agreed upon.

Try New Jersey.

"lucillebluth, you need to spend some time west of the Delaware"

ok, i'll get right on that, thanks

"Try New Jersey."

i did, i'm already here. it's lovely.

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no, lucille, clearly you are not.

what's up ar? how's the gig going? playing nice with the other kids?

i always play nicely with the nice kids.

Well all my questions have been answered to my satisfaction by my lawyer, I think he might have been hungover from the holiday. All is good and moving forward, thanks for all the comments.

Not The City of Brotherly Love, though. The rest of the west of the Delaware.

hey good memory! guess other people remember things too. and i have so been west of delaware. i spent the summer in oberlin once for some reason that must have made sense at the time. so there.