2bed/2bath UWS August move-in

Hi,

There was one available for less, actually. A lease just went out. If it falls through I will let you know. If you are willing to expand your search, or go up slightly in rent, the options increase. There is on for more in a luxury building that allows pets and has a full-time doorman, a beautifully planted and furnished roof deck, a childrens playroom, a gym and bike room. It's listed at $4,150 and is app. 900 sq. ft. Let me know if I can help. For an August move-in, you might want want to work with someone. Best of luck.

I am an agent for Town and I can be reached at tsarcone@townrealestate.com or 646-300-6027, if I can help. Good luck with your search!

that is ghetto pricing

You might want to check out this thread:

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/24641-pro-big-dog-rental-buildings

Also, jluski, inonada had another helpful post on a different thread: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/27390-se-index-up-for-may-2011. This describes in some really helpful detail how you can find 100 condos with your specifications above, and how to narrow that then down to 20 of those that you like best, and then how you can get to visit all of them in a short period of time and then have the truly top best 5 or 6 competing with each other so you can get the absolute best deal. If you follow this route, you should be able to find your dream apartment! Keep in mind that the below suggests an apartment renting in the $3500-$3700 range, so there is plenty of room to save money from your $3800 budget to spend on new furniture, or a new tv, or eating out at great restaurants every month, or possibly a new car and parking.
So welcome to NYC! You'll love it here.
Remember though, you need to do the hard work, and develop the tough exterior of a New Yorker by throwing in a few "hey buddy"s and of course the tough-minded "shitlist" when in negotiations. If you can handle that - remember this isn't Kansas - you'll be golden.

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I had written some stuff on another thread, but I'll make a summary here free of charge.

1. Wait until the ideal window to begin your search, which is the last possible moment. For condos, this'll be something like 6-7 weeks before your target move-in date. The point here is to be able to go into negotiations with an implicit "I'm the last shot you have of having a tenant occupy your place come Jan 1". With condos, there's a 1 week window to determine a place, a 1 week window to stamp out a lease, and 2-4 week lead time on approval from the condo board (though it can often be sooner). At 6-7 weeks out, that's extremely tight on "being sure you have a place to move into at the end of the month" and pretty much no one else will go any tighter.

2. Come the week of your search, scour StreetEasy with as wide a net as possible. I skip craigslist, NY Times, rental buildings, and rental brokers. You don't get all the inventory from SE, but it's the most bang for the buck in terms of time. I start with an extremely wide net (say several hundred listings), do a super-quick filtering to the top 100 or so. This amounts to just getting rid of the "crap that no one would touch" listings. It should take no more than 15 seconds to reject things, but keep an eye out for poorly-marketed gems in your filtering. From this 100, the spend some more time to filter down to say 20 places you like best. This whole process should take a few or several hours.

3. Prepare form emails to brokers at all 20 places, picking a date early in the week (like early Tue morning), describing yourself and that you are interested in seeing listing X for date Y sometime in the next few days & if they could let you know their availability. Send them all out at the same exact moment. Within an hour or two, you'll be deluged with 10+ responses (by day-end, it'll be 15+). This is good. Given availability and location, pack viewings tightly back-to-back. Like 4 places between 8:00 and 10:00 in the morning before you go to work, 4 places between 5:30 and 7:30 after work. The beauty of mid-week is that it might be a pain work-wise for you, but brokers' schedules are completely open and therefore can accomodate a time like 9:10AM that allows you place viewings back-to-back with 5 minute walking times in between. There'll be some scragglers that will be harder to schedule, but the bulk can be banged out. Viewing everything for the first time should take several hours, and you should have 15 of 20 places seen.

4. Once you've seen the majority of your list of 20 after a few days, formulate your form offer email to the top few (I did 5 or 6). Say how you liked the place, how it's one of a few places you're most interested in (hint, hint -- you've got competition), details on what a great tenant you make financially & otherwise, blah-blah. Put in the price & terms you like, don't be afraid of asking for too much. I came in at 10-20% off asking price in all cases (this was late 2010 after the market had supposedly recovered), got responses in all cases, and in about half the cases the responses were closer to the offer than the ask. Send the offers out simultaneously to all places.

5. With simultaneous offers, you'll get simultaneous responses. This is good. Because you will have backups, you know what you can push for. If some place is willing to play ball at say $3500, that's the number to beat. If someone doesn't give you a better deal, you can always go with the $3500. So you negotiate softly with the $3500, knowing you have a $3700 backup. And you can negotiate hard with $3700 knowing you have a $3500 backup. Use the few days of negotiating time for doing backup viewings at places that are willing to play ball to your satisfaction.

6. Once you've got your favorite, get a lease signed promptly and keep the a backup or two warm conscientiously during this process. Nothing like "Hey buddy, I told you I'm a straight shooter and am going with your place above the others, but if you want to hemm and haww on the terms you agreed to three days ago, you're going on my shitlist and I'm gonna start talking to the others again."

Or, if that's too much work, here's this little gem: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/rental/784989-rental-348-west-end-avenue-upper-west-side-new-york

They're done filming "Hoarders: Buried Alive", so good to go for the 1st.

Oops, sorry, no elevator.

There are a few more that are available close to your range with one in your price.

East 68th Street
Upper East Side (Junior 4 converted to two bedroom)
Bedrooms: 2
Baths: 2
SqFt (int): 800 (aprx)
Doorman: Yes
Elevator: Yes
Pets: Yes
$3,295

East 90th Street
Upper East Side
Bedrooms: 2
Baths: 2
Doorman: Yes
Elevator: Yes
Pets: Yes
$3,975

East 84th Street
Upper East Side
Bedrooms: 2
Baths: 2
Doorman: No
Elevator: Yes
Pets: Yes
$3,900

If you decide you'd like some assistance, let me know.

Tsarcone obviously you didn't see that original poster is looking for UWS

tsarcone is desparate to make a few bucks so he will put any garbage in just to waste everyone's time. especially the first listing of Jr4 conversion that the OP said did not want. time for new glasses.

I did see that it was Jr4 and showed it. I did see that it was UWS and found one available, but wanted to show some options for someone who needs to move soon in the price range they were looking for...

the price range wont yield what he is looking for

Jim, you aren't very encouraging. Inonada, on the other hand, could find 100 condo apartments that fit the bill and would ultimately have 5-6 landlords salivating over his potential tenancy.

i know the market. im realistic. op needs deeper pockets, or more realistic criteria. i shot holes in nada's showy posting in the very same thread.

it is the second bath at that price that is killer.

ts... yes. i wanted to live in the village and you showed me wall st :)

ab, you are showing yourself to be both pedantic and stupid. how did you let someone do this to you?