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Finally some foreclosure action

Started by Riversider
over 14 years ago
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mortgage-default-warnings-apf-157937671.html?x=0 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Banks have stepped up their actions against homeowners who have fallen behind on their mortgage payments, setting the stage for a fresh wave of foreclosures. The number of U.S. homes that received an initial default notice -- the first step in the foreclosure process -- jumped 33 percent in August... [more]
Response by duvravcic
over 14 years ago
Posts: 78
Member since: Jan 2009

Thanks so much for posting this.

Similar situations have happened periodically, in varying magnitudes, in the last couple of years. However, Manhattan has never been hit with these waves of foreclosures at all.

One big reason in my opinion: Because the residential rental market is so consistently strong in Manhattan, if one struggles to make mortgage payments, s/he can easily rent the unit out--usually above cost. In most other areas, however, rental markets aren't nearly as strong.

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Response by w67thstreet
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2008

Flmaozzzzz

The rental mkt based on $300k back office banking jobs based on 50x leveraged balance sheet, based on trillions of mbs sold to us taxpayers. A perfect real estate bubble making machine. And when the party is over, the politicians so worried about actually having to balance their budgets, pushes banking regulators to look the other way.

Well apparently if you think your studio is still worth $2mm, and you spend again at victoria secrets for your 1000th thong, then our economy will be just dandy!

I like how a town in Greece with a population of 300 includes 75 who work for the govt!!!! The 're-structuring' is fine. :)

In all my deals on work out loans over the years, exactly 0 turned it around. Flmaozzzz. It always seemed to me the work out groups at banks were more 'unwinding' groups that allowed the dealmakers to collect their bonuses and get out bf the bank wrote off 95% of the loan. If you project that to our nyc re mkt, just letting the smart ones sell and get the fk out. :)

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Response by saiyar1
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2010

@duvravcic
Apartment easy to rent out in Manhattan? Yes
Can be rented at over cost??? NO.

How can apartments be easily rented above cost with a price to rent ratio of over 25? That's ridiculous otherwise everyone would be buying up apartments.

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Response by duvravcic
over 14 years ago
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>Can be rented at over cost??? NO

I thought it was clear from the context, but I guess I should have articulated what "cost" in this context generally means.

Cost = CC + taxes + mortgage (or, if coop, maintenance + mortgage). Rent can easily exceed this figure, unless:(1) you have huuuuuuuuge monthly loan payments; (2) you waaaaaaay overpaid in 2006 or 2007 for a crappy apartment in an undesirable area; or (3) your bldg. has unusually high CC/Maintenance.

I think saiyar1 is confusing cost with return on "investment" (although many don't view apartments as investments). When your focus is on avoiding foreclosure AND you are successfully covering cost, I don't think you would be concerned about the rate of return on your apartment so much...

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