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new condos in williamsburg

Started by msbrooklyn
almost 15 years ago
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Urban Green/Jardin, Albero (finger bldg) are all starting sales this fall. Any comments on pricing, bldg, etc? How does this compare to Edge? I liked the Edge and considering to buy, but there seems to be a lot of inventory coming online.
Response by Wbottom
almost 15 years ago
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there is plenty of upcoming inventory, as well as stale inventory, as well as inventory that went rental; all of which will need to clear at some point---once cleared, more will be built, based on lax zoning and glut of properties waiting to be razed for fresh development

if you must buy in wburg, take your sweet, and bid loooooow

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Response by Wbottom
almost 15 years ago
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your sweet time, that is

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Response by freezer
almost 15 years ago
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i was out over the weekend, i found very little inventory, can you add any upcoming buildings. tahnks

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Response by soopster
almost 15 years ago
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Jardin developer just raised his prices around $75k on 2BRs (12%)

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Response by rkerrnyclon
almost 15 years ago
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Despite all the people saying tons of inventory in williamsburg, the major projects are selling out pretty quickly, and the smaller buildings have, even post crisis, done fairly well also. Albero looks like a fantastic building because of location and nice views and tons of balconies. Jardin is too close to 6th street noise. Remember -- edge and nsp have 25 years abatement and those buildings may have only 15.

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Response by bjw2103
almost 15 years ago
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msbrooklyn, I've said this before, but I'd be wary of both Jardin and 144 North 8th (formerly the Albero). Both were stalled for a LONG time, exposed to the elements and who knows what else. The prices seem ambitiously high to me, so would definitely wait and see how much traction there is in the early going. I'd be surprised to see much.

As for the troll's same ol' tired comments, don't expect much in terms of explanations or details when it comes to claims of "plenty of upcoming inventory," "stale inventory," rentals that "need to clear at some point," as well as "lax zoning," and a supposed "glut of properties waiting to be razed."

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Response by soopster
almost 15 years ago
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I hear that Jardin already has ~10 contracts out

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Response by msbrooklyn
almost 15 years ago
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thanks bjw. do you suggest bringing in an engineer to look at the structure?

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Response by bjw2103
almost 15 years ago
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msbrooklyn, I do. The salespeople will certainly bristle at the very thought, and may try to stop you, but then you can ask them what it is they've got to hide. If that happens, please report back here so that info can be made as public as possible.

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Response by ab_11218
almost 15 years ago
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ms, how do you expect an engineer to look at rusted beams that were covered by stone, panels or concrete? by buying, you take it into consideration that within 20 yrs, significant work will have to be redone. with other buildings, the same work may take 40-50 yrs to be redone.

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Response by mh330
almost 15 years ago
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ab_11218, how do you "redo" rusted steel beams?

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Response by msbrooklyn
almost 15 years ago
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ab, how would you go about this? just assume higher probability of assessment than say, Edge?

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Response by angeloz
almost 15 years ago
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msbrooklyn , I think you should rent.Its too risky in williamsburg to buy now. Too many new buildings in the pipeline and stale listings hanging around. Check 111 Kent, they have beautiful apts for rent, and it was another failed condo, so you will get the nice condo finishes and brand new feel you may be looking for.

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Response by bjw2103
almost 15 years ago
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Actually, if you really want to live in Williamsburg, I'd even say hold off on renting as well. This is just getting nutty:
http://therealdeal.com/newyork/articles/42425

Raising prices? Yikes. How is this sustainable?

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Response by huntersburg
almost 15 years ago
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Did you just say that if you want to live in Williamsburg, that you should neither buy nor rent? How will the person live in Williamsburg then?

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Response by ab_11218
almost 15 years ago
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the way to redo the beams is when pieces of the facade are removed and the beams are cutout to be replaced with new ones. i had that done in my old coop building. i can understand having to do that after almost 50 yrs, not after 20 or so. it is very expensive, invasive and time consuming.

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Response by bjw2103
almost 15 years ago
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In other words, wait and live somewhere else until prices get a bit more reasonable.

ab_11218, an engineer can inspect those things. But it is going to be tough to get them access until you at least put a deposit down. And even then. I'd be direct and ask them what they have to hide. Transparency is sorely needed in these kinds of buildings.

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