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Devonshire Conversion

Started by marye7308
about 14 years ago
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I was curious if anyone knows if there was an insider discount offered to the tenants and how long after the purchase was the conversion filed. Trying to get some idea of what is going to happen with 1327 Lexington
Response by columbiacounty
about 14 years ago
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not sure if your specific question is answered here but worth a look.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/13349-devonshire-house

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Response by marye7308
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The piece doesn't really speak to how the conversion was handled. Thank you though for the link.

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Response by marye7308
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Does anyone know how the conversion played out for the tenants?

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Response by huntersburg
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>Does anyone know how the conversion played out for the tenants?

So columbiacounty provided a useless link?

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Response by marye7308
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Did not provide any solid info. Just a bunch of conjecturing and discussion of floor plans. So far no one has been able to provide any real insight into either building.

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Response by Gopher_1
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Market rate tenants did not have their leases renewed. From what I know, a lot of the rs and re tenants are still there. There was no "insider option" for market rate tenants

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Response by Gopher_1
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Sorry, meant rs and rr tenants.

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Response by marye7308
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thank you. Everyone has been trying to figure out if there will be an insider price if they are in possession at the time the offering is distributed- it would the answer is no. If anyone was a tenant when the conversion went through we would love any insight you may offer

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Response by columbiacounty
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there are never insider prices for market rate tenants. there may or may not be insider prices for rs/rc tenants.

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Response by marye7308
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actually, years ago when I used to work on conversions we would offer insider rates as incentive tenants to buy to meet the 15% requirement. As long as you are in possession at the time the red herring is circulated you have the right within 90 days to exercise the option. We have had a couple of friends who have had the good luck to be in buildings when they converted. So it does not matter what type of tenant you are as long as you are in possession.

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Response by huntersburg
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Columbiacounty said never.

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Response by Gopher_1
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At the Devonshire, most of the apts were 1 and 2 bed. They wanted to combine where possible to sell larger places. As 50% were rs/rr there wasn't much room to offer insider prices to the mkt rate tenants.

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Response by jsw363
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There were fewer than 50% RS/RR tenants at the time of conversion. Most of the building was empty. No market rate tenants were able to participate in the conversion because the leases had all expired by the time the red herring appeared.

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Response by Gopher_1
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Dunno about that. Spoke to one of the doorman and he reckoned most of the rs/rr tenants were there after conversion, and the building was sold as 51% rr/rs (if I remember the listing right)

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Response by marye7308
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jsw363 Thank You! It would seem that they are emptying the building out of all mrt. I just don't understand how they get around the warehousing issues. Regardless, it would see the same thing is happening at 1327 Lexington. Most of the rs/rc tenants are elderly so taking a buyout does little for them.

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Response by jsw363
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Gopher, you're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree. As the last market tenant in the building, I was in the thick of things. However, not knowing your sources beyond one conversation with one doorman, I'll try to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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Response by marye7308
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JSW363 what was your experience? How did they get around the whole warehousing issue? Originally people were optimistic in the building that they might be able to buy their apts, but as the building empties out more and more this seems to be less viable.

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