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Started by karuna
over 14 years ago
Posts: 14
Member since: Jul 2010
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the building i am reviewing for contract does not have minutes for 2011. i find this odd since they had a increase in 3/11 and a refinance in 8/11. are there by-laws that state board meetings should be held....and minutes taken esp.....if some action takes place and at least for 2011 budgets for 2012. my lawyer is still waiting on the answers i have re increases, spec assessments, projected repairs, tax projected increases for 2012, etc. it is a week now.
Response by kylewest
over 14 years ago
Posts: 4455
Member since: Aug 2007

A coop board must keep minutes. If the building is a coop and the building truly does not have minutes for any meetings over the last 10 months, I would move on. This is not a building being run in a way you want to get involved with.

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Response by Riversider
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

Required, but often heavily sanitized...

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Response by ab_11218
over 14 years ago
Posts: 2017
Member since: May 2009

no minutes, no sale.

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Response by ab_11218
over 14 years ago
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no minutes, no sale.

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Response by lad
over 14 years ago
Posts: 707
Member since: Apr 2009

How big or small is the building?

If it's a small building, it could be that the person your lawyer is dealing with may not know where the minutes are (or that they exist). Can your lawyer ask to talk to the Secretary directly?

From what I've seen with small buildings, you have to go to the Secretary for the minutes, to the Treasurer for the budget, to the President or VP for contracts, etc., etc. There tends not to be a central repository, so unless you have a super-organized board member, the co-op record will be piecemeal and spread among several people.

lad (small building Secretary)

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Response by uptowngal
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2006

Keep in mind that many buildings will not disclose detailed minutes for legal reasons - only the bare basics of what was discussed. That said, even if they're "sanitized", the existence of minutes should be a sign of how well - or how seriously - the building considers good management practices.

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Response by karuna
over 14 years ago
Posts: 14
Member since: Jul 2010

it is a small building, 16 units, 4 floor walkup. the lawyer just left me a message that the minutes may not have been written up. not sure. hopefully, we can get answers. the managing agent referred her to the account executive who has not yet gotten back with her but at least all my questions were sent over. it seems the board president told the managing agent there were no minutes but it is vague how come. the building did have two sales in 2011 so they had banks lend to them and they did get a refinance so that was approved in 2011. can small boards just run things informally? the last minutes were end of december 2010. it is kind of disconcerting that it seems lax. but perhaps it will all get clear once the account executive answers the questions. thank you for your feedback. i will ask my lawyer to see about the secretary........

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Response by jms8
over 14 years ago
Posts: 110
Member since: Apr 2011

I think you are all overreacting especially given the size of the building. I am in an 8 unit coop, everyone in the building is on the board. We don't keep minutes yet we are still well run. Any questions that are asked by the buyer's attorney are answered.

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Response by lad
over 14 years ago
Posts: 707
Member since: Apr 2009

Small building boards do tend to run things less formally, with a lot done over e-mail.

My building tries to meet quarterly and as needed, but in reality we sometimes go 6-9 months without a board meeting. Sometimes it honestly isn't needed.

We've also had a lot of turnover in the Secretary position. One quit unexpectedly and owed the Board minutes for several meetings at the time she quit. Some of those are lost for good, while others can be recreated from handwritten notes that other members took.

Welcome to life in a small building! I like it, but it's not for everyone.

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