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Chic-est Building in Chelsea/West village

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What is the chic-est new or almost new building in Chelsea/West Village area for a buyer who also would like private outdoor space and rich in amenities and views? Thank you in advance for your ideas. I would like to be able to advise a friend where to look.
Response by NYCMatt
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http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/644065-condo-100-eleventh-avenue-west-chelsea-new-york

Nothing else, frankly is even worth considering living in.

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Response by matsonjones
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Ugh. What a crappy building. I looked at units in there for possible consideration. Love the outside skin. Hate the interiors.

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Response by huntersburg
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I'm surprised Matt would be looking at buildings with Chics.

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Response by matsonjones
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I guess you're not as smart as you thought, then, h. But of course, the rest of us here already know that.

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Response by huntersburg
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Response by jim_hones10
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Superior Ink

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Response by 1818
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Can you think of any other buildings rich in amenities where a 2 bedroom apartment with a balcony would go for approximately 1.5M to 2M ?

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Response by jim_hones10
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You didn't mention a budget before. That is like asking for the finest bottle of cheap champagne in a restaurant.

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Response by 300_mercer
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caeldonia is nice with a lot of amenities

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Response by jim_hones10
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300_mercer
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report abuse caeldonia is nice with a lot of amenities

....with one bedrooms in the 1.5 to 2 million dollar range. not two bedrooms.

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Response by 1818
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I just went on the Caledonia website. They state that the units are all sold out. the only units available are the for rent units.

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Response by happyrenter
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you want the chicest building in the best neighborhood. you want two bedrooms. you want amenities. you want outdoor space. and you want to spend less than $2 million?

this isn't happening.

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Response by emanik
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1818, you must meet them in person or at least call them. Sometimes, websites are not as frequently updated by real estate groups as one would expect them to.

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Response by buster2056
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Definitely not happening in these two neighborhoods. I was going to suggest Superior Ink until I saw the price limitation. Maybe 305 West 18th, but one would be hard pressed to call this building "chic."

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Response by lad
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Your budget is a bit small for everything you want.

Decent private outdoor space can be hard to find in any price range in these two neighborhoods and tends to carry a big (and maybe not logical) premium. Seems like many of the newer buildings are shying away from balconies, as they detract from the look of the facade.

If you have to make compromises, I would point out that there are so many amenities in these two neighborhoods. Think about what you really need in your building v. one or two blocks away.

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Response by KeithB
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A simple yet elegant building, my client loves his home here.Just misses the Chelsea cut-off...
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/building/141-fifth-avenue-new_york

Keith Burkhardt
The Burkhardt Group

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Response by NYCMatt
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"Can you think of any other buildings rich in amenities where a 2 bedroom apartment with a balcony would go for approximately 1.5M to 2M ?"

Yes, but they're in Pittsburgh.

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Response by front_porch
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141 Fifth not only misses the Chelsea cutoff, it misses the outdoor space cutoff and the $2mm cutoff.

But that leads us back to happyrenter's point -- your friend is looking for a unicorn. I specialize in Chelsea and the West Village, and I would argue that generally the chic-est buildings aren't anywhere near new. I have one offer out in Chelsea on a chic building with outdoor space that isn't full amenity, and one client who will buy exactly what you described but will pass up the West Village and go to Brooklyn to get it.

I would suggest your friend look at a variety of newish condos -- the Stratus (which has outdoor space above that price point), the Yves (which I think has a chic factor, but not outdoor space) and the Marais (which does have outdoor space and is in the budget, but isn't newish at this point).

But be prepared to drop something off the list.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by NYCMatt
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Hi! I'm looking for the chic-est new or almost-new building in Chelsea or the West Village. Must be rich in amenities and views, have private outdoor space, and be under $1 million. It must also have purified water running through the pipes with a champagne tap at the wet bar in the living room. Oh and I need place for my unicorn. Thank you in advance for your ideas!

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Response by lad
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Ali's suggestion of The Stratus is really good. It may be the only thing in the neighborhood that even remotely fits the bill here. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the location, though.

The Marais could be good, too, but I wouldn't say it's "chic," and it's one of many so-called luxury buildings that look cheap from the outside (IMO). The Yves is not going to meet this price range, I'm thinking, unless the OP/friend is willing to give up a bedroom.

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Response by West34
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Not that chic, not quite chelsea, not quite new, but...:

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/building/grosvenor-house

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Response by buster2056
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If we're going a bit older, 140 Charles Street in the village might work - many units with balconies. And maybe some units at One Morton Square if you give up on outdoor space.

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Response by lucillebluth
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i think some people on this thread are CONFLATING chic and trendy. they do not mean the same thing.

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Response by Bill7284
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lucille I think chic is for high-end and trendy is for the masses. I too do not want to conflate as it gives me heartburn.

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Response by kylewest
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Listen to Ali (a/k/a frontporch, above). Holding fast to "if there is a will, there's a way" only makes sense if you accept "something's gotta give" too.

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Response by truthskr10
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Still my favorite building in Chelsea
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/building/metal-shutter-houses
Though not in the price range and no availabilty

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Response by lucillebluth
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Bill7284
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report abuse lucille I think chic is for high-end and trendy is for the masses. I too do not want to conflate as it gives me heartburn.

that's actually wrong. chic means elegant, which doesn't have to be expensive. trendy means reflective of current trends, which can be very expensive, if expensive is the trend at that time. for example, dressing head to toe in monogrammed garments and accesories of a recognizable designer price point company has been trendy at various times. but it is very expensive. at the same time, a person's clothes or home can break down into an assortment of very modestly priced items, but be very chic. chic can also often be described as classic but not always. something trendy can never be classic unless "classic" styling is the trend of the time. there.

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Response by lucillebluth
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" I too do not want to conflate as it gives me heartburn."

tmi

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Response by front_porch
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truthskr10, Metal Shutter Houses is one of my faves too, though we're talking $4 mm, and of course you're not getting a doorman.

Still, it's byootiful.

ali

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Response by happyrenter
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the supposed distinction between chic and trendy is inaccurate. chic has several definitions. elegant is one of them. stylish is another. trendy ("conforming to current trends") is a third.

chic can be synonymous with either trendy or elegant.

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Response by bgrfrank
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You do not want a balcony. They look awful. We have them and yes it is nice tom step outside but overall they look bad on the building. If you have a terrace that Is very different.

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Response by seven7
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nothing wrong with grosvenor house

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Response by seven7
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nothing wrong with grosvenor house

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Response by lucillebluth
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chic cannot be synonymous to trendy. a chic sensibility can posses the aspects some current trends but the look as a whole will never be 100% trend. the most appropriate analogy i can think of is the optical reflection vs. transmission of light. "trendy" is when the light (trend) reflects entirely, whereas "chic" allows the light to pass through the sample and reemerge appropriately bent. chic is 1 minus absorptance, happy.

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Response by jim_hones10
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lucille, dont you think you sjould practice being nice? being you got you divorced. tone down the clever know it all bullshit.

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Response by lucillebluth
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thanks grandma, i'll do my best

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Response by West34
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Re: thanks grandma, i'll do my best

Five comments in this thread and not one a helpful response to the OP's question.

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Response by happyrenter
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"chic cannot be synonymous with trendy."

apparently, lucille, you know better than the oxford english dictionary, which lists "conforming to current trends" as one of the acceptable definitions of chic.

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Response by jim_hones10
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see lucille? not making many new fans here.

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Response by lucillebluth
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"Five comments in this thread and not one a helpful response to the OP's question."

good point. it seems to me that before proceeding op should first determine what exactly he wants - a trendy new building (as his op implies) or a chic one. a trendy building will obviously be brand new and its amenities will reflect the lifestyle trend of THIS time, the time it is built. its' implied and perceived value will be based upon it's relevance NOW and the sort of people who live there NOW, it offers no reasonable assurances or guarantees for its future. a chic building will be older, very well done and very expensive but that expense will be a result of its consistent proven performance both as an architectural structure as well as the plivate club of fabulous people who make it their home. a chic building (as well as its residents) will have withstood the test of time. making an older expensive CHIC building the obvious better choice. hope that's helpful.

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Response by lucillebluth
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happy, i don't know what else to say to you. chic is a style sensibility of either (1) a person or (2) product designed by a person with a chic sensibility. chic is a style. trendy is the embodiment of curent market trends. chic has the ability to EVOLVE over time. trendy ends with the end of that trend and becomes something else. trends have a short life span. chic has an eternal lifespan. trendy makes its impact and dies. chic makes a contimuous impact. trendy is the dinosaurs. chic is a shark.

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Response by lucillebluth
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fans? i come here to blow off steam and keep my head sharp, not gain a following to channel into a career. that was ar and it didn't work out for her.

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Response by lucillebluth
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"chic is a shark. "

......because sharks have changed very little in the last 100 million year. which is not to suggest you didn't know that, but just saying.

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Response by happyrenter
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so, in other words, you know better than the oxford english dictionary. good to know.

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Response by lucillebluth
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actually it means that literal comprehension is the extent of your critical thinking abilities and you lack an instinctive compass for conceptual nuances. which is not necessarily a bad thing.

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Response by nyc10023
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Neither new nor chic nor in the proposed price range, but I totally totally dig the apt with wraparound terraces in the London terraces. Oh!

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Response by West34
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Re: Neither new nor chic nor in the proposed price range, but I totally totally dig the apt with wraparound terraces in the London terraces. Oh!

The pre-war coop dilemma -- no matter how wonderful you make YOUR space (full reno, multi-unit combo, etc etc), that elevator ride with an 85 year old neighbor, in nightgown and slippers, living in a rented sponsor unit since 1952, is so NOT chic.

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Response by Prada_Addict
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166 perry st

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Response by downtownsnob
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try Williamsburg. The Edge or something like that.

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Response by huntersburg
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>fans? i come here to blow off steam and keep my head sharp, not gain a following to channel into a career. that was ar and it didn't work out for her.

AR owns half of her husband, so I think she's fine.

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