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Buying a Co-Op: What does guarantor really mean?

Started by YuppieintheUES
over 13 years ago
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I have been told by several brokers that I will most likely need a guarantor if I want to buy a co-op in Manhattan because my income (excl. bonus) is not high enough. I know there is also the option to co-purchase. 1. What are the key differences between having a guarantor and co-purchasing (e.g. with parents)? 2. From the perspective of a co-op board, would my gaurantor's net work/liquid assets count towards the liquidity requirements? For co-purchasing? Thank you!
Response by ab_11218
over 13 years ago
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guarantor will guarantee that your maintenance will be paid.

co-owner will get screwed when your mortgage or maintenance is not being paid.

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Response by marco_m
over 13 years ago
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tough transaction to do. co purchasing means all parties will be on the mortgage and have to provide all the documentation. If you refi down the road, everyone will have to be involved. i would definitely not recommend it.

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Response by YuppieintheUES
over 13 years ago
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Thanks

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Response by NYCMatt
over 13 years ago
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Interesting.

Why did these "several brokers" not tell you to just look for something more affordable?

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Response by YuppieintheUES
over 13 years ago
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Probably because there is no such thing as "affordable" in Manhattan

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Response by NYCMatt
over 13 years ago
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Then Yuppie should be renting, no?

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Response by baelfire
over 13 years ago
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Hi Yuppie,

Currently going through the same process right now and having a co-purchaser is a major pain. The main difference between a co-purchases and a guarantor is what you need them for.

The guarantor only guarantees the maintenance so you would only need one if you could individually qualify for the mortgage but the co-op board is still worried about your liquidity and ability to pay maintenance.

The co purchaser is there for when your income is not high enough to get the mortgage, so you would need one in order to even get the mortgage.

Just a word of advice, be prepared to be hounded for weeks on end by the mortgage company and the board for every possible form of documentation of your financial position. There is also endless amounts of paperwork to do.

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Response by dealboy
over 13 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2011

What is the OP dies?
Is the guarantor still on the hook?

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Response by YuppieintheUES
over 13 years ago
Posts: 5
Member since: Jul 2010

Thanks for the comments.

Strangely enough, I asked Chase whether both co-purchasers need to be on the mortgage and they said no. I easily qualify for the mortgage myself based on income -- the guarantor/co-purchaser is needed only to appease the co-op board.

NYCMatt- Thanks for the advice. In case you don't know how to read, renting is less affordable than buying these days.

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Response by truthskr10
over 13 years ago
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>Just a word of advice, be prepared to be hounded for weeks on end by the mortgage company and the board for every possible form of documentation of your financial position. There is also endless amounts of paperwork to do.

Umm, anyone regardless of financial status should be prepared for this when buying a coop.

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