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Sept 11 2011

Started by julialg
over 13 years ago
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Response by aboutready
over 13 years ago
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What happened in 2011? And what does it have to do with NYC real estate in 2012?

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Response by sledgehammer
over 13 years ago
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You don't even remember the date right!

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Response by sledgehammer
over 13 years ago
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Epic fail!

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Response by huntersburg
over 13 years ago
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I remember a year ago. It was 10 years since 9/11/01. I remember going to vote that morning.

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Response by aboutready
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How patriotic of you. I guess voting could tangentially be related to/affect NYC real estate.

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Response by huntersburg
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Badillo for the Republican nomination.

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Response by cccharley
over 13 years ago
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I don't remember a year ago at all. I was probably doing the same as today. Still listening to the TV. Many do not anymore but I find it cathartic.

The sky is just same as that day 11 years ago. So weird. I think it's a little cooler. Like it matters.

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Response by alanhart
over 13 years ago
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Why do you think Herman is the man for the job, hünterβbürg?

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Response by alanhart
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"Epic fail!"

... a basic trait of *every* post from The Large Julia, a right-wing hate-radio listening housewife in New Jersey.

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Response by huntersburg
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Well, keep in mind, first of all, that I was 1 year old at the time (remember I'm 12 now). But after Hillary carpetbagged her way to holding office for NYS, I figured that we might as well have a NYer running for Mayor for the Republican party rather than a Bostonian. Did you know that, years before, Badillo lost to Alan Hevesi for NYC Comptroller? That worked out well.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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On Sept 11 2011, The Levon Helm Band performed a concert for some of the 9/11 victims' family members.
On Sept 11 2012, The "Love For Levon" upcoming concert is mentioned in Cindy Adams' column.
Many of the family members and survivors of the attack have been invited and will attend the concert.

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Response by Truth
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That song will not be performed at the concert walpurgis.

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Response by walpurgis
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It had better not!

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Response by alanhart
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Seriously, of all the tenth-anniversary memorials, you have to mention that of irrelevant nonagenarians, trees who fell in the forest, trUth?

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Response by Truth
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Joe Walsh would like to hear your version of his song: "Rocky Mountain Way".

John Mayer, Gregg Allman, Warren Haynes, John Hiatt, Marc Cohn, Mavis Staples, Lucinda Williams,
Patty Griffin and many others including surprise guests will be there to perform.
Jorma Kaukonen will be performing "San Francisco Bay Blues", so get your kazoo ready,walpurgis.

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Response by alanhart
over 13 years ago
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Desist.

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Response by aboutready
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"truth" another thing that has nothing to do with NYC real estate

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Response by yikes
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like youve got anything to do with the concert, barb

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Response by Truth
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alkiealanhart and alkie aboutready are trolling me, although I wasn't talking to them.
I wasn't talking about them.
They are irrelevant to anybody of any importance in the real world.

I was recalling what I was doing on Sept 11,2011. Along with my friends who are people that actually have talent and also work for charity.

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Response by falcogold1
over 13 years ago
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Clue:
the act of increasing one's own power, importance, etc., esp. in an aggressive or ruthless manner
anyone care to guess the word?

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Response by Truth
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Oh, here's wbottom/yikes, the bitter divorced guy.
We have the concert producer, Don Was and his publicists out on the west coast taking care of media credentials from their office.
wbottom/yikes, the bitter divorced guy, went on Levon's website and read that and he believes that's all the PR work there is "to do with the concert".

Another nobody bully gang member, on patrol for a fight.
and falcogold, reporting for duty at the orders from ar headquarters.

I have many things to do working on all of the concerts The Levon Helm Band have performed.

All of you bully gang members obviously have nothing to do except be envious.

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Response by yikes
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funny....for all your "friends" and contacts, no one's ever heard of you

go figure

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Response by julialg
over 13 years ago
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Hey Truth... I really miss Hitch.
Don't let the rubble bother you.

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Response by Truth
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wbottom/yikes is still dragging the old bully gang line.

My real name has been quoted in the real Press. I'm identified as being Levon Helm's friend and music PR, as recently as last month. Millions of people have heard of me.
This reality gets the bully gang members angry.

Many of the artists performing at the concert are also my friends, some for decades.

Nobody has ever heard of wbottom/yikes, except here on streeteasy.
Nothing to go figure about wbottom/yikes.

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Response by Truth
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Hi julialg:

Hitch was the best.

The bully gang members don't bother me with their trolling "comments". They just continue to make fools of themselves.

They are bothered by the fact that they are nobodies, unknown to anybody of any importance in the real world.

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Response by falcogold1
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self-aggrandizement!

What? nobody want to play?

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Response by cccharley
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Hi my friends. You know who - I miss you! especially today. Big kiss

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Response by Truth
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nobody wants to play with a fool like falcold, except other fools.

Meanwhile, I'm forwarding the e-mail exchange I just had a few minutes ago with Levon's manager
re: the concert mention in Cindy Adams' column today, to a few se regulars whose e-mails I have.

Keep making fools of yourselves, bully gang members.
That's all you will ever make of yourselves.

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Response by aboutready
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I've been too busy, falco, living my nobody life and wringing my hands because I can't be special, like "truth."

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Response by Truth
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That's your problem, aboutready.

I'm not "special", I just have real friends and real work to do.

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Response by aboutready
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misogynist.

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Response by yikes
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but falco, there's no power, so there's never been an increase. it's just a simple self-promotion fail.

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Response by yikes
over 13 years ago
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some day i'm going to tell you about all my rich and famous friends--and i'm going to divulge who i am, so you can know how rich and famous i am too--then maybe you'll let me be your friend--and hang out in your shlthole studio with you

you playa you

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Response by alanhart
over 13 years ago
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But yikes, will you be able to brag about a gossip columnist's write-up of WWI-era entertainers, as trUth has? Will you be featured in lots of awards & events photos ("Celebrity X, with groupie Yikes to his left")? Will there even be a website for San Fernando Valley Bar Mitzvah event planning named in your honor?

Or are you going for full-on nobody?

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Response by Truth
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Oh, wbottom/yikes thinks I care about who he is and who he knows.
another failure by the bully gang members to convince new se readers that I'm not who I say I am, don't know who I say I know, don't work with the people/friends I work with...

The bully gang like making fools of themselves on streeteasy.

Go back to your furnished studio rental, wbottom/yikes.

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Response by Truth
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Full-on nobody, just like alkiealanhart.
He's drinking another angry day away.

See you later, losers.

I have real work to do.

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Response by alanhart
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I thought you're the renter, no, trUth? In Bay Ridge, no, trUth? And aren't you the one who makes a big point of who you are, who you know, and who you work with, while NOBODY ELSE CARES. So why do you always bring it up, trUth? This thread is about September 11th, 2011. You have nothing to add to it.

Stop your incessant trolling; cease, desist, begone, scat, shoo, scram, take a powder, away with you, disappear, trUth.

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Response by alanhart
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"real" "work" ... now that's richer than rich chocolately Ovaltine.

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Response by Truth
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It's a big point only because you and the other bully gang members are so envious of it.
I already added my comment about Sept.11, 2011.
You and the bully gang offered nothing to this thread except your usual trolling comments.

Nobody else cares about you and your drunken comments.
Go purchase "a homeless black kid" and "adopt" him, post comments about him and his "crack addict mother" who abuses him...

That's real work.

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Response by Truth
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Oh, yes. I'm now renting an apartment in Bay Ridge.
Very nice. You couldn't afford the rent here.

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Response by alanhart
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"here"?

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Response by Truth
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Yes, I rent a beautiful apt in Bay Ridge. Brooklyn. NYC. The rent is higher than your co-op maint.
alkiealanhart goes nowhere and only lives in his co-op, sitting and drinking his old days away.
He can't afford to live in Italy. He can't afford to visit Italy. He can't afford to travel.

The only place he traveled to was when he took a powder, away from se and disappeared.
Stayed home drinking and reading streeteasy, frustrated that the boards were so civil without him.
Having "discussions off the board", reported by falcogold, trying to be reinstated from the grey zone.
Nobody cared.
So he came back anyway to continue his drunken trolling.
A failure by any measure.

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Response by aboutready
over 13 years ago
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Such pathos, rendered so eloquently, and with such delightful prose. I can tell writing is a part of your job description. It's obvious with every single post.

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Response by Truth
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and here's the failed "writer",aboutready.
She failed at her "quite the career in journalism" that she bragged about in her se comment,
posted while she was "away" from se but "not really back"...
another bully gang member who's a failure.

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Response by alanhart
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The boards were so civil when I was on vacation that TrUth managed to get herself greyed out ... the greatest achievement of her "life".

And yes, TrUth's a mediocre writer at best. Nineteenth-century Rego Park schools must have been awful.

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Response by aboutready
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So AH, while YOU were on vacation did YOU consume breadsticks inspired by gaudi design elements while being stood up by your "friends" at 2:00 a.m.?

I think not, loser.

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Response by alanhart
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Rorschach roti at 3am for me, jilted by the other inpatients. TrUth and I are practically twins. ... except she was born in 1909.

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Response by Truth
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aboutready has no friends that do real work.
If she did and was ever asked to wait for them to finish, especially filming for a documentary,
she would annoy them with constant e-mails.

She's still tracking me. Tracking my comments.
Envious that I have a social life with real friends. Envious that I'm a publicist. Envious that I can wait patiently for friends while in Barcelona.

The other alkie, ph41 says she's employed. Brags about her penthouse.
I know her name and address but I wouldn't stoop to her lack of class and post it here on se.

So, NYCNovice:
Here before your eyes is the start of a new alliance on streeteasy.
aboutready and ph41, formerly not friends; are bonding in their failed attempt to control me.

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Response by aboutready
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Your paranoia is at an alarmingly high level, truth. Go comfort yourself with some simple carbohydrates. Preferably inspired by Gaudi design elements.

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Response by alanhart
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Wow, trUth, it really does bother you when anybody makes friends with another person. What a miserable and sad existence you live, if any.

Maybe you should take up journaling or something. If not being able to write well holds you back, you can just get a solid-state transistorized cassette recorder and talk into the shaft of that instead.

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Response by Truth
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Go comfort yourself with your new "black kid". Don't forget to call him: "Son"
as in "My son, come here to your mommy so that I can bond with you. I'm sorry I made you ride that rollercoaster. It was fun to see you so terrified, even if I thought I had crossed the line to child abuse..."

OYE ma-MEE!

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Response by alanhart
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trUth, I don't quite understand why you get all derogatory stereotype Latina women after you make seriously offensive accusations of child abuse and manage to throw in lots of anti-black racist remarks at the same time.

Maybe your SSI money just came and you went to the corner to get rid of it.

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Response by Truth
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It's been decades since alkiealanhart's mouth was near a shaft.

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Response by alanhart
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Flattery won't work at this point.

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Response by aboutready
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Somebody's losing her shit big time. Meltdown alert.

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Response by aboutready
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Skank.

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Response by alanhart
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Yes, so sad, so true: trUth is once again spinning out of control. Centrifugal force ... first she spirals out to Italy, then she gets slammed over to Spain; what's next for trUth, Uranus?

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Response by julialg
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Response by ph41
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Yes Truth, sure you know my name and address. FLMAO
Statements like that just prove how severely delusional you are

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Response by ph41
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Oh, and sorry to disappoint you but we're grilling pork chops on the terrace tonight . Haven't seen any black swans out there. And certainly wouldn't cook a SWAN

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Response by Truth
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julia: That's actually aboutready's new black son.
He's only 15, almost 16; but he's being sent around the world on diplomatic missions.

Anything to get away from his new mommy who has been drinking herself up for another se meltdown.

I just laugh as she gets angry.
streeteasy is serious business to her.
It's her job to post comments here and as she's complained to se readers:
"It's a hell of a lot of work..."

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Response by Truth
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and here's ph41, you know how classy she is.
She gets drunk and posts my address.

Enough has been written on se boards describing her building. The block she lives on.
She lives in a penthouse there. She's described it many times,in snobbish detail.
Not difficult to find her real name.

and she tries to claim that I'm a liar by posting a comment from a writer who was known for taking items from
Heather Mills, defending her honor and her wedded bliss to Paul.
Oops! That wedded bliss was BS and that writer got laughed at by everybody who is anybody in the music business.
Had he tried to contact Ahmet Ertegun or Ron Delsener to confirm my identity -- they would not have taken his call.

Hey ph41: aboutready has an open bottle waiting for you in Brooklyn.

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Response by ph41
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So find it you delusional wacko loser

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Response by alanhart
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And heeeeeeeeeeere's Crrrayzee!

I bet those aren't the only people who refuse to take a call that mentions the name of a mental defective.

And it's "Lady Heather".

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Response by alanhart
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By the way, ph41, you really should reply to trUth regarding the Barbie Queued swan at http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/32259-factions-and-alliances-on-streeteasy where trUth implicates you.

For posterity.

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Response by ph41
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oh wait - Truth you posted about me "I know her name and address but I wouldn't stoop to her lack of class and post it here on se". and then, you posted that I had described my building (which I haven't done) and posted " Not difficult to find her real name".

So you lied in the first post, saying you know my name and address, which of course you don't - as a way to try to threaten me? Don't really think "Truth" is a good screen name for you. But will leave it to others to come up with apt alternatives.

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Response by Truth
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No, ph41. No threat, just pointing out the fact that you posted my address, as a way to take your frustrations out on me because I won't allow you to control me.
You did it and everybody either saw it or knows about it.
No class.

You've posted many times describing your penthouse.
inonada narrowed your address down.

Leave it to others, ph41 to describe your snobbish attitude.

Meanwhile, aboutready is waiting for you in Brooklyn.
Why let her drink alone?

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Response by Truth
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Before you make a bigger fool of yourself, ph41; check with ali r.
She knows who I am and what I do.
Then let me see you call her a liar.

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Response by NYRENewbie
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Let's get back to the topic. Whether it is Sept. 11, 2011 or Sept. 11, 2012, or Sept. 11, 2013, I call my friend who lost her husband in the World Trade Center. I reassure her that I will never forget him and I try to ease her pain. That is how I have marked, am marking, and will mark this anniversary as long as we both are living.

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Response by alanhart
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NYRENewbie: The one 9/11 widow I met (fireman's wife in Montauk), just before 9/11/2006, told me she was sick of 9/11 memorials and happy to get on with her life. As she put it, it took her four years to get through high school, and then she was done; four years for her to complete college, and then done; and four years of grieving over her husband and listening to everyone else and the public do so -- and she was DONE! Maybe your friend is the same way, maybe not, but I suggest you feel her out on it very carefully.

trUth, Alison doesn't lie, so your biggest nightmare is that she'll give everyone the real deal about you. She will.

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Response by Truth
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She will, and she doesn't lie.

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Response by alanhart
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So don't complain when everybody knows. But you'll probably be in Uranus by then, still posting irrelevancies on a discussion board focused on NY residential real estate.

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Response by Truth
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NYRNewbie:
Very kind of you to make that call to your friend.

Never mind alkiealanhart's advice. As if he knows your friend and how to continue your friendship with her, better than you do.

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Response by caonima
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it's the most tragic date of human history, on 9/11, the elected government of Chile was destroyed by the dark force. sub-million people lost their lives and freedoms

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Response by alanhart
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trUth just does whatever she wants, without any regard for the person she's "helping". Not at all unlike a psychopath.

Stick to what you know best, trUth: making fun of an 80+ man who's about to have major orthopedic surgery. And ... well, that's just about it for what you know best.

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Response by alanhart
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"sub-million people" ... by income, or net worth?

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Response by ph41
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each Sept 11th, when I see the beams of light rising in the sky, I remember that morning. I was on the terrace,having morning coffee, looking at the towers, saw flames coming from what seemed to be windows, but larger slashes. Wasn't on the news at first - took some time to actually know what was happening. With all the smoke, didn't comprehend that the building wasn't there anymore, just thought the smoke was obscuring everything. I was "lucky" in that I didn't know anyone who perished there.

And just a little later, a very very good friend in Chicago gave birth to her first child. So, for me, possibly selfishly, there was a little bit of joy in that day. He just celebrated his 11th birthday today.

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Response by aboutready
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a good friend of mine's birthday is today. her husband was supposed to be on one of the 9/11 flights that day, but at the last minute elected to stay home to celebrate with her. another friend's aunt's office was on a floor directly hit by one of the planes but she was traveling on business that day.

so for me too, their is both sadness and not related to this day.

truth is a skank.

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Response by aboutready
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I've had my issues with ali, but i don't envy her here.

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Response by matsonjones
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I miss my friends ;_;

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Response by aboutready
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I'm so sorry. You lost people you loved? How horrific. And so many people did. I knew many people who lost loved ones, but I was lucky in that I didn't actually have anyone I care for die.

We lived on west 23rd street at the time, and it was the route to chelsea piers where they had set up command. we had uniformed soldiers with guns on our street corners every day, and helicopters overhead (and that stupid asshole bush announcing to the world what level of alert we were at). Our daughter, five, went out one day, probably October, saw a soldier and just started crying.

OK, I'm guilty of promulgating the large one's not-so-nyc-real estate-realted thread.

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Response by aboutready
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actually, that sounded horrible. i didn't personally know ANYONE who died.

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Response by mutombonyc
over 13 years ago
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aboutready and alanfart are pathetic.

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Response by falcogold1
over 13 years ago
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I miss the city from before it went 'lock down'.
The only security guard you ever saw was to prevent shop lifting.
You walked into buildings and glided to where ever you wanted.
Now we waste unimaginable amounts of our resources on nonsense security on the off chance that this chain link fence will stop a mosquito.
I miss the days of showing up tp LGA 25 minutes before a flight, pay in cash and getting on the plane without the hassle of some C-track retard manhandling my electronics.

I really hate terrorists.

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Response by yikes
over 13 years ago
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9/11 has been a vehicle for many and much bad stuff--condi, rudi, lutnick, cheney....the lisy is a long one.

i lost many good friends/colleagues on sept 11. i pick my spots very carefully with their families, having heard comments re their disgust with the lutnicks/rudi's of the world, as well as those who, desperate for drama, won't stop with their "sympathy".

alan's point is a good one--be thoughtful as you try to help those who were directly impacted.

try writing a check to a 9/11 family having financial issues....with little fanfare...make it about them, not you

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Response by caonima
over 13 years ago
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["sub-million people" ... by income, or net worth?]

alanhart, it's by headcount, life count, and soul count. you heartless selfish greedy bloodsucker know nothing but money and worth

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Response by huntersburg
over 13 years ago
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I just did a google search for "caonima", and now I understand.

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Response by aboutready
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that's so superficial, and repetitive, HB. no need to google, just read the posts. idiocy without coherent language. he's good to go around here.

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Response by huntersburg
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>he's good to go around here.

What are you trying to say?

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Response by aboutready
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you can't intuit my meaning?

truth, for a very brief moment, loved him.

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Response by huntersburg
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Oh, I'm a big fan of Quickbooks, thanks.

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Response by alanhart
over 13 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

hǜnŧɘrβbűrg, you just don't understand.

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Response by cccharley
over 13 years ago
Posts: 903
Member since: Sep 2008

Oh I see a lot went on since I haven't returned to the post nor did un-shade till today. Is there no respect for anything anymore?

Just read all your comments and for those you lost I feel for you. I only knew two who lost their lives that day and it still wrecks me. Actually, even if I knew nobody I would feel the same. Sucks all the way around. No eloquent way to put it.

Don't know why this conversation turned into a clusterfuck but once again there is the usual person behind it.

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Response by julialg
over 13 years ago
Posts: 1297
Member since: Jan 2010

Our quisling leader also sucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY

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