Cost + timeline for renovating studio ?
Started by somaloft
over 13 years ago
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Just signed contract for a split-level studio co-op (under 600 sq ft). Renovation virgin here, would like to have a ballpark for renovation without cost of materials. (Would probably go for ceasarstone/silestone countertops, and slate in bath) 1) New kitchen (possibly moving around the kitchen appliances and sink) + installing washer dryer combo. 2) Bathroom (replacing tub with shower + seat) 3) New Floors - engineered hardwood 4) Wooden staircase (4 ft I think) leading to sunken living room 5) Sliding door/accordian partitions to create sleeping area and office 6) Finishes - painting, etc. I am not aware of all tasks needed to accomplish these, so please add these as well. Also approximately how long would it take?
For 2), it would be a new bath entirely, not just replacing the bathtub)
I don't know what you mean in terms of 1) new kitchen but but "without cost of materials". No one is going to give just a labor estimate on here. specify low, medium, or high end job. Agree that 2) means a total gut of bathroom. Do you need electrical and lighting done? Computer and TV cables wired into walls? Speaker wires in walls? Does overall wiring need update? Adding outlets or additional lighting? Mouldings--crown and/or base? Replacing any doors? What condition are wall in now--can they just be painted or do they require skim coating? Are you customizing any closets? Is your building a coop or condo (may matter in terms of approval lag time for project). Radiator covers needed? How big is kitchen?
30k
I realize this is unasked-for advice but... I'd really recommend against using slate in the bathroom. It's a bear to keep clean, cracks easily and will look incredibly dated very quickly (a la travertine, which has been used to death in every new development and now looks oh so last decade).
A good classic porcelain tile will wear better and will still look fresh years from now. Just something to consider :-)
Being that you will be relocating appliances and fixtures and that its a co-op you should start with an architect. Possibly get the design/filing in place plus building approvals. Another option is to call someone like All Renovation Construction (http://www.allrenovationllc.com), have them come out and see the project - they offer design build services. They will also most likely provide a ball park estimate at that time...I've used them before - they are excellent and well known in Manhattan and Brooklyn for their extensive renovation projects.
Best of Luck,
Adam
$30k is ridiculous. I would estimate $75k minimum and up to 150k all in (labor, materials, architect, expediters). If you are removing the bathtub, you will have to file with the DOB which requires an expediter.
somaloft, as stated by others, you need an architect involved as you plan on moving plumbing locations, washer/dryer is new to apt, tub to shower etc. Adam gives sound advice. I second that we can work with you on a DB level. E-mail me to discuss better stephen@capitalcraftsmen.com
60K tops
The final cost will HUGELY depend on the materials you pick, and the labor cost, too, will depend HUGELY on the materials and finishes you select. For instance, aside from the slate, would you be using drywall and acrylic for your bathroom, or would it be entirely Porcelanosa and Toto Neorest? The latter choices are far harder to install in most cases, and that would translate into higher labor.
In any case, from what I have seen, I agree with buster2056. I can't imagine this happening for $30k or even $60k in Manhattan. You should perhaps consider yourself lucky if you can get it all done for under $100k (including materials).
Please be skeptical when contractors give you low estimates because it's easy for them to give unrealistically low estimates, get your business and go grossly over budget. I have seen that heppen to too many people.